But you will be lighter, so probably better handeling characteristics.. which probably we result in faster lap times..cirrusflyer wrote: Then you dont have enough fuel too hunt him and race is over.
The question boils down to which advantage is bigger:George-Jung wrote:But you will be lighter, so probably better handeling characteristics.. which probably we result in faster lap times..cirrusflyer wrote: Then you dont have enough fuel too hunt him and race is over.
and therefor you could still be able to hunt down/overtake your teammate.
Don't think so, we see the whole year the same pattern: Hamilton using less fuel, so it's not a sensor issue.turbof1 wrote:The question boils down to which advantage is bigger:George-Jung wrote:But you will be lighter, so probably better handeling characteristics.. which probably we result in faster lap times..cirrusflyer wrote: Then you dont have enough fuel too hunt him and race is over.
and therefor you could still be able to hunt down/overtake your teammate.
-a lighter car better in cornering
-a heavier car better in power
IMO, we are speaking of only 100kg of fuel. They already need to run a significant amount of the race in some sort of fuel saving mode; at one point loosing another several kg of fuel will bring a lot more problems then you can win out of it.
So yes, I also find the insinuation that Hamilton runs lighter bogus. I'm rather more inclined to believe he runs a badly calibrated sensor, then this.
Google translate:Hamilton verbraucht offensichtlich weniger Benzin als sein Teamkollege. Warum er ihn dennoch schlagen kann, scheint auf den ersten Blick rätselhaft zu sein. Zu sagen, er sei einfach schneller, wäre zu kurz gegriffen. Hamilton hat sich scheinbar einen konstanten Fahrstil angeeignet, durch den er weniger Benzin verbraucht, während er die geforderte Rundenzeit fährt. Dadurch kann er mit weniger Benzin ins Rennen gehen.
Der Blick auf die Grafik enthüllt, dass er über die Renndistanz durchschnittlich 3,5 Kilogramm weniger Benzin zu verbrauchen scheint. Rechnet man das in die Rundenzeit ein, ergibt sich ein Vorteil von 0,1 Sekunden pro Runde. Über die gesamte Renndistanz des Grand Prix von Spanien sind das 6,6 Sekunden. Sollte die Performance beider Fahrer und ihrer Autos identisch sein, hat Hamilton über die Renndistanz somit einem Vorteil von fast sieben Sekunden.
Hamilton obviously consumes less fuel than his teammate. Why he can beat him yet, seems to be puzzling at first glance. To say that he was simply faster would be too simplistic. Hamilton has apparently acquired a constant driving style, by which it uses less petrol while driving the required lap time. This allows it to go into the race with less gasoline.
Looking at the graph reveals that he seems to consume an average of 3.5 kilograms less gasoline over the race distance. If one adds the one in the lap time, there is an advantage of 0.1 seconds per lap. Over the entire race distance of the Grand Prix of Spain that is 6.6 seconds. If the performance of both drivers and their cars to be identical, Hamilton has over the race distance thus an advantage of almost seven seconds.
Google translate:Hamilton verbraucht offensichtlich weniger Benzin als sein Teamkollege. Warum er ihn dennoch schlagen kann, scheint auf den ersten Blick rätselhaft zu sein. Zu sagen, er sei einfach schneller, wäre zu kurz gegriffen. Hamilton hat sich scheinbar einen konstanten Fahrstil angeeignet, durch den er weniger Benzin verbraucht, während er die geforderte Rundenzeit fährt. Dadurch kann er mit weniger Benzin ins Rennen gehen.
Der Blick auf die Grafik enthüllt, dass er über die Renndistanz durchschnittlich 3,5 Kilogramm weniger Benzin zu verbrauchen scheint. Rechnet man das in die Rundenzeit ein, ergibt sich ein Vorteil von 0,1 Sekunden pro Runde. Über die gesamte Renndistanz des Grand Prix von Spanien sind das 6,6 Sekunden. Sollte die Performance beider Fahrer und ihrer Autos identisch sein, hat Hamilton über die Renndistanz somit einem Vorteil von fast sieben Sekunden.
[/quote]Hamilton obviously consumes less fuel than his teammate. Why he can beat him yet, seems to be puzzling at first glance. To say that he was simply faster would be too simplistic. Hamilton has apparently acquired a constant driving style, by which it uses less petrol while driving the required lap time. This allows it to go into the race with less gasoline.
Looking at the graph reveals that he seems to consume an average of 3.5 kilograms less gasoline over the race distance. If one adds the one in the lap time, there is an advantage of 0.1 seconds per lap. Over the entire race distance of the Grand Prix of Spain that is 6.6 seconds. If the performance of both drivers and their cars to be identical, Hamilton has over the race distance thus an advantage of almost seven seconds.
So Gary Anderson the F1 guru is using my theory and my calculations. Wow i''m feeling really proud right nowkoolracer:
But that means he is carrying a fuel "penalty'' compared to Rosberg? 3kg of extra fuel is worth 0.1 a lap * 66 is 6.6 sec extra in Spain if the team gave Lewis the same amount of fuel as Rosberg.
In every previous race it appeared that Lewis was using about 5% less fuel than everyone else including Nico. Alonzo was often the highest with Nico nearby, I assume because Nico had to push through the field in those races. Massa also often appeared to be running relatively light on fuel, but most of the other drivers were clumped up pretty tight including both RBs.Phil wrote:I'm sorry, but AFAIR, the difference between Nico and Lewis in fuel usage seemed to be higher in barcelona than in other races. In fact i dont remember it being ever that high despite their close race from start to finish. In which other races was it higher?
Without starting a fanboy debate on this topic, which I really, really do not want in the team thread, I see it as a) clever politics - this is the best way to lure him into a position to lower his and/or Nico's salaries wishes, and b) it is also a challenge for "his" drivers to change his opinion.De Jokke wrote:http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... _the_grid/
I don't get it, why would a team boss devalue his own drivers. BTW, Lewis beat nando in same car car in '07 while still being a rookie.