2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[ME4ME]

Whenever they try to run a bigger rear wing to "protect the tyres" it never works anyway

That's easy to say but it's an over simplification. Might still be the best compromise. Could be far worse if they went low -df in those races. Without Verstappen driving two RB21's at the same time it's hard to argue either way.

What's clear is they have a deficiency in tire temperature & heat management compared to their direct rivals which they try manage indirectly until they fix or improve the root cause.

I guess what we are seeing is indeed signs that they are making progress.

[organic]

Pirelli have gone a step softer than usual at Silverstone which is a shame for Red Bull

[Rikhart]

Pirelli have gone a step softer than usual at Silverstone which is a shame for Red Bull

As they did for Imola, and that didn't turn out too bad.

[f1isgood]

Pirelli have gone a step softer than usual at Silverstone which is a shame for Red Bull

As they did for Imola, and that didn't turn out too bad.

In the race yes but it will shift things towards the McLaren's in qualifying. And passing in Silverstone when the car in front is just as quick is kinda tricky.

[pantherxxx]

I think the new Td on flexi wings will help Red Bull massively. Because Rb21 still have the best aero efficiency in terms of drag. While Mclaren's car is already too draggy, and they had low top speed in Imola for example because of that. So because reducing flexing in the wings will massively increase drag, the already too draggy cars will suffer the most.

[Sergej]

Ready for another "skip to Saturday" Friday ?

[Cs98]

I think the new Td on flexi wings will help Red Bull massively. Because Rb21 still have the best aero efficiency in terms of drag. While Mclaren's car is already too draggy, and they had low top speed in Imola for example because of that. So because reducing flexing in the wings will massively increase drag, the already too draggy cars will suffer the most.

The RB21 doesn't have the best aero efficiency, it's quite draggy with the wing closed. Besides, the drag difference because of front flexing will be negligible, especially when the effect is felt across all teams.

[Rikhart]

I think the new Td on flexi wings will help Red Bull massively. Because Rb21 still have the best aero efficiency in terms of drag. While Mclaren's car is already too draggy, and they had low top speed in Imola for example because of that. So because reducing flexing in the wings will massively increase drag, the already too draggy cars will suffer the most.

The RB21 doesn't have the best aero efficiency, it's quite draggy with the wing closed. Besides, the drag difference because of front flexing will be negligible, especially when the effect is felt across all teams.

But the magnitude of that effect will vary greatly.

[organic]

Norris' long run at the end of FP1 was bad, just looking at the laptimes. started in the low 1.20s and was doing high 1.20s towards the end. Leclerc just about stayed in the 1.19s. Max was driving to a 1.19.5 delta but had fresher tyres than the other two

Even if it comes up that McLaren were dropping engine mode (when have they been doing that this year?) they still had lots of deg on that soft run. Must be hiding pace unless they've completely got the setup wrong

[FittingMechanics]

Norris was for at least a part of it running behind a Haas, testing cooling and overtaking.

Norris was also using a medium downforce rear wing (Oscar on high downforce). The team believes high downforce rear wing is faster but they will decide before FP2.

So very noisy data.

[pantherxxx]

I think the new Td on flexi wings will help Red Bull massively. Because Rb21 still have the best aero efficiency in terms of drag. While Mclaren's car is already too draggy, and they had low top speed in Imola for example because of that. So because reducing flexing in the wings will massively increase drag, the already too draggy cars will suffer the most.

The RB21 doesn't have the best aero efficiency, it's quite draggy with the wing closed. Besides, the drag difference because of front flexing will be negligible, especially when the effect is felt across all teams.

Mclaren's top speed was terrible in Imola (321 km/h), while Red Bull's top speed was exceptional (331 km/h). And even early testing data indicated the same.

[Cs98]

I think the new Td on flexi wings will help Red Bull massively. Because Rb21 still have the best aero efficiency in terms of drag. While Mclaren's car is already too draggy, and they had low top speed in Imola for example because of that. So because reducing flexing in the wings will massively increase drag, the already too draggy cars will suffer the most.

The RB21 doesn't have the best aero efficiency, it's quite draggy with the wing closed. Besides, the drag difference because of front flexing will be negligible, especially when the effect is felt across all teams.

Mclaren's top speed was terrible in Imola (321 km/h), while Red Bull's top speed was exceptional (331 km/h). And even early testing data indicated the same.

Those numbers are not accurate and I'm not talking about with DRS open anyways. With the wing closed the RB isn't low drag at all. Like many false preconceptions this is a remnant of previous seasons when the RB was fairly low drag. Not the case anymore.

[euv2]

Comparing the two laps between NOR and VER it was very close in most corners besides turn 4 where Max loses a whopping 0.25 and another tenth at turn 12, the rest of the lap was pretty even with Max lifting throttle slightly less in the high speed.

Even engine modes look to be very similar, with almost matching top speeds and acceleration curves.

[avantman]

https://postimg.cc/4Ybcbk0g

Comparing the two laps between NOR and VER it was very close in most corners besides turn 4 where Max loses a whopping 0.25 and another tenth at turn 12, the rest of the lap was pretty even with Max lifting throttle slightly less in the high speed.

Even engine modes look to be very similar, with almost matching top speeds and acceleration curves.

Mclaren's bendy walkover is over. Red bull for pole.

[f1isgood]

The RB21 doesn't have the best aero efficiency, it's quite draggy with the wing closed. Besides, the drag difference because of front flexing will be negligible, especially when the effect is felt across all teams.

Mclaren's top speed was terrible in Imola (321 km/h), while Red Bull's top speed was exceptional (331 km/h). And even early testing data indicated the same.

Those numbers are not accurate and I'm not talking about with DRS open anyways. With the wing closed the RB isn't low drag at all. Like many false preconceptions this is a remnant of previous seasons when the RB was fairly low drag. Not the case anymore.

I think everyone basically has more or less same drag upto bendy rear-wings. Red Bull are being too stupid this regulation set by leaving free lap-time on the table.