2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 14:32
Norris' long run at the end of FP1 was bad, just looking at the laptimes. started in the low 1.20s and was doing high 1.20s towards the end. Leclerc just about stayed in the 1.19s. Max was driving to a 1.19.5 delta but had fresher tyres than the other two

Even if it comes up that McLaren were dropping engine mode (when have they been doing that this year?) they still had lots of deg on that soft run. Must be hiding pace unless they've completely got the setup wrong
I think they are running more fuel. See the high speed losses. That's purely fuel. Engine modes seem similar. Ferrari/Red Bull are running less fuel.
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Lindblad on pole in F2. Youngest F2 pole sitter ever

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f1isgood wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:19
organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 14:32
Norris' long run at the end of FP1 was bad, just looking at the laptimes. started in the low 1.20s and was doing high 1.20s towards the end. Leclerc just about stayed in the 1.19s. Max was driving to a 1.19.5 delta but had fresher tyres than the other two

Even if it comes up that McLaren were dropping engine mode (when have they been doing that this year?) they still had lots of deg on that soft run. Must be hiding pace unless they've completely got the setup wrong
I think they are running more fuel. See the high speed losses. That's purely fuel. Engine modes seem similar. Ferrari/Red Bull are running less fuel.
It seems like yes, they were probably running more fuel :

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These are the fastest laps from their long runs at the end. Lando lifting significantly in T13 and he also lifts off completely in T14.
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f1isgood wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:19
organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 14:32
Norris' long run at the end of FP1 was bad, just looking at the laptimes. started in the low 1.20s and was doing high 1.20s towards the end. Leclerc just about stayed in the 1.19s. Max was driving to a 1.19.5 delta but had fresher tyres than the other two

Even if it comes up that McLaren were dropping engine mode (when have they been doing that this year?) they still had lots of deg on that soft run. Must be hiding pace unless they've completely got the setup wrong
I think they are running more fuel. See the high speed losses. That's purely fuel. Engine modes seem similar. Ferrari/Red Bull are running less fuel.
Red Bull don't run low fuel in race sims.
It doesn't turn.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:43
f1isgood wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:19
organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 14:32
Norris' long run at the end of FP1 was bad, just looking at the laptimes. started in the low 1.20s and was doing high 1.20s towards the end. Leclerc just about stayed in the 1.19s. Max was driving to a 1.19.5 delta but had fresher tyres than the other two

Even if it comes up that McLaren were dropping engine mode (when have they been doing that this year?) they still had lots of deg on that soft run. Must be hiding pace unless they've completely got the setup wrong
I think they are running more fuel. See the high speed losses. That's purely fuel. Engine modes seem similar. Ferrari/Red Bull are running less fuel.
Red Bull don't run low fuel in race sims.
Then I am not sure why they lose so much through high-speed. Emag also points out exactly what I thought was happening. We will see. Maybe McLaren have a deg issue potentially (It's FP1 though) but not a pace issue.
Call a spade, a spade.

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organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:30
Lindblad on pole in F2. Youngest F2 pole sitter ever
I honestly put him in the same category of talent as Kimi. Kimi was slightly more hyped coming into F2 but Lindblad has been better whilst there. RB's driver academy has come back to life with Hadjar and Lindblad.

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I think Hadjar has been more impressive than Kimi, and Lindblad might have more potential than both. Kimi probably has more room to grow but I think Hadjar's season so far with basically no testing is much more impressive compared to Kimi who drove 9000 kilometers.
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f1isgood wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:52
I think Hadjar has been more impressive than Kimi, and Lindblad might have more potential than both. Kimi probably has more room to grow but I think Hadjar's season so far with basically no testing is much more impressive compared to Kimi who drove 9000 kilometers.
Exactly.

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Good T4 and S2 in that last soft run. They were nowhere in that sector before.
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AR3-GP wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:26
Good T4 and S2 in that last soft run. They were nowhere in that sector before.
Maybe they made some changes in the setup. McLaren are fast on the straights and we're better in the corners at the moment it seems

Maybe Norris just didn't extract the most though...

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organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:28
AR3-GP wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:26
Good T4 and S2 in that last soft run. They were nowhere in that sector before.
Maybe Norris just didn't extract the most though...
clearly looking at Piastri

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Are we cooking in the race sims? Looking decent so far.

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It's friday and we look the best on the long runs.. walk with me

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organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:44
It's friday and we look the best on the long runs.. walk with me
I think Norris is doing slightly better than Max on this long run

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Sergej wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:46
organic wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:44
It's friday and we look the best on the long runs.. walk with me
I think Norris is doing slightly better than Max on this long run
Yeah agreed max has dropped off faster