Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[dren]

An ever so slight positive for Mercedes:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103687

[clipsy1H]

WTF? did Michael fight with Nico or Ross?


is blood there? how much can affect Sunday?i think it may sting him

edit: or maybe he already started play with horses that's a strange injury

[marcush.]

Schumacher already prepares for thrill after work?

[sidmiester]

completely agree with lauda...

better off starting off with new design than continuing on designing the refined version of W03

i am convinced with costa, elliot, bell, will make a good car, with bigois and john owen, and just bob bell taking over a year it was not good enough. w03 was ok, but i was pissed like many here, that ross brawn abandoned the updates in car.

honestly lauda should be booting off ross brawn.

he is the one who made so much blood money when team was sold to mercedes, he was the one who promised that team would be competitive by 3 years and he failed. this year project was pretty much abandoned yet again in between...

[Cocles]

ross brawn abandoned the updates in car.

How do you know this?

You're demanding that Lauda fire Brawn, largely based on your own speculation. For all we know, it was Bell, the windtunnel, Daimler, Brawn himself, or any of other number of reasons.

[clipsy1H]

btw first time when Michael refers to next year.... and also he talk about Vettel
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/mich ... 6503328911

Britain's Lewis Hamilton will replace Schumacher at Mercedes next season and the German said his successor will benefit from the work he has put in with his team over the past three years.

"I'm not a designer and no aerodynamicist, but I think that I have contributed to the team's development".

[snoop1050]

WTF? did Michael fight with Nico or Ross?

is blood there? how much can affect Sunday?i think it may sting him

edit: or maybe he already started play with horses that's a strange injury

i think he fell off the scooter he usually uses to navigate around the track

this kind

[clipsy1H]

WTF? did Michael fight with Nico or Ross?

is blood there? how much can affect Sunday?i think it may sting him

edit: or maybe he already started play with horses that's a strange injury

i think he fell off the scooter he usually uses to navigate around the track

so if he fell off the scooter in India nobody will take a photo or a news somewhere?? maybe he fell off the bike in these 2 weeks thx god he can compete this weekend because is a pretty bad injure

or maybe he try something like this again but this time no one hold his bike :D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMsqw9YodLA[/youtube]

[snoop1050]

WTF? did Michael fight with Nico or Ross?

is blood there? how much can affect Sunday?i think it may sting him

edit: or maybe he already started play with horses that's a strange injury

i think he fell off the scooter he usually uses to navigate around the track

so if he fell off the scooter in India nobody will take a photo or a news somewhere?? maybe he fell off the bike in these 2 weeks thx god he can compete this weekend because is a pretty bad injure

or maybe he try something like this again but this time no one hold his bike :D

on a bike its unlikely he would have bare legs on a scooter he would probably have shorts and a tshirt its only logical

[clipsy1H]

maybe someone will ask him but i;m not so sure another reason why Corinna should push him to continue with cars

anyway back on thread i expect a very strong Rosberg this weekend ... after 2 DNFs he should score some points here maybe both car in top 8

[spadeflush]

Definitely seems to have had a fall off that scooter. The injury is on his left leg which is his scooter propeller, the right leg is probably safer from injury

[Adamski]

I think this team will going backwards the field next year. Now the Lauda'ism is already started. In one week we have got two completely different idea on what they should do next year.

First we got Lauda's interview that Mercedes should and will go for a revolution next year. Now Brawn just talk about substantial changes but nothing radical, instead a more conventional approach on next year's car. Oh gosh, it's already started. After almost half a year of developing next years car they still don't know whether they will go radical or just making an evolution of the W03.

One more thing:
Brawn: "I think we haven't kept pace with the aerodynamic developments that have gone on," he said.
"We came to the Coanda exhaust late, and I think over the first half of the season people were still coming to terms with the tyres, understanding them, and getting the most from the exhaust systems."

So literally the others can cope with both problems while Mercedes spend hell of a lot time to understand the tires but they still don't while put ZERO effort to deliver fundamental aerodynamic parts to the car. What a crap of decision makers... [-o<

[siskue2005]

guys you need to understand one thing, you have to start from the base model of previous year and make changes to it (unless there is some substantial rule changes like 2008 >> 2009 ) ....otherwise you will end up in even more bull cr@p than you were before.
what Lauda is talking is completely stupid, if Merc do their 2013 car from a clean sheat then it will be a diasaster

look at all the top cars from 2009 till date, they all are evolutions with some revolutionary parts in them

[Adamski]

guys you need to understand one thing, you have to start from the base model of previous year and make changes to it (unless there is some substantial rule changes like 2008 >> 2009 ) ....otherwise you will end up in even more bull cr@p than you were before.
what Lauda is talking is completely stupid, if Merc do their 2013 car from a clean sheat then it will be a diasaster

look at all the top cars from 2009 till date, they all are evolutions with some revolutionary parts in them

You are almost there but look at Ferrari. They started with a brand new car. They pay the price earlier in the season but they are still up there, the pace is not bad. I bet if they go with the more conventional way with the F2012 they would be in the same position like now.

I think either way is good if you have good reasons to go in certain direction. Of course starting from scratch is more riskier and for only one season it can't pay out. But if I were in Mercedes' situation I would go for a revolution for this last season (2013) with the current regulations. They have enough resources now to recover and anyway, they can't fall too much further behind.

[siskue2005]

guys you need to understand one thing, you have to start from the base model of previous year and make changes to it (unless there is some substantial rule changes like 2008 >> 2009 ) ....otherwise you will end up in even more bull cr@p than you were before.
what Lauda is talking is completely stupid, if Merc do their 2013 car from a clean sheat then it will be a diasaster

look at all the top cars from 2009 till date, they all are evolutions with some revolutionary parts in them

You are almost there but look at Ferrari. They started with a brand new car. They pay the price earlier in the season but they are still up there, the pace is not bad. I bet if they go with the more conventional way with the F2012 they would be in the same position like now.

I think either way is good if you have good reasons to go in certain direction. Of course starting from scratch is more riskier and for only one season it can't pay out. But if I were in Mercedes' situation I would go for a revolution for this last season (2013) with the current regulations. They have enough resources now to recover and anyway, they can't fall too much further behind.

this years ferrari is not a 'brand new car" developed from a clean sheet