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[avantman]

I very much hope Max gets his race ban soon because I am very curios to know what kind of excuses Wache will come out with that time, when Hadjar and Tsunoda qualify 12 and 15. Will that be a wrong rear wing, or front flap angle, or maybe something else.

[avantman]

I think the penalty was unjustified. There's no proof that Verstappen intentionally hit Russell, and the accident was so minor, it didn't cause any danger or damage, that it shouldn't worth a penalty.

It was obviously intentional

Could anyone please remind me, what kind of penalty from the FIA did Checo get for ramming hard into the side of Sirotkin in Singapore being in a clear mind and side by side with his rival?

[PierreW]

I very much hope Max gets his race ban soon because I am very curios to know what kind of excuses Wache will come out with that time, when Hadjar and Tsunoda qualify 12 and 15. Will that be a wrong rear wing, or front flap angle, or maybe something else.

Maybe the tyres were degraded to much by the mechanicians for rolling them over. They will have to think about carrying them all the way to the car.

Wache will have to start to feel some pressure. If Max leaves and the engine does not perform, it's last positions on the grid with the current aero.

[Vettel165]

Yeah lets relax its over, still Max will probably win lets say 2-3 races until the end of the season. We will i think finish p3 in the WDC.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

I can't wait for Max's race ban. The truth about the car's real performance will be revealed.

[avantman]

I can't wait for Max's race ban. The truth about the car's real performance will be revealed.

Yeah, can't wait to see Max being expose when Hadjar jumps in Max car for the first time and wins with ease, just like Russell in 2020. Every knowledgeable F1 fan knows Max drives a very different car than the 2nd red bull.

[ringo]

The hard tyre was the best choice. He would have went backward on the used soft.
What people are failing to remember is that Max made a mistake at the restart by spinning up the tyres and losing control of the car. Had he been easier on the throttle and accept that he may lose a place on the restart, he would have overtaken Leclerc when the hards warmed up.
His pace was very good on the hard. His three mistakes today were the restart, not avoiding Charles, His two run ins with his bestie George. Otherwise he would have been at worst P4 and at best P3.

[Bill]

I can't wait for Max's race ban. The truth about the car's real performance will be revealed.

Yeah, can't wait to see Max being expose when Hadjar jumps in Max car for the first time and wins with ease, just like Russell in 2020. Every knowledgeable F1 fan knows Max drives a very different car than the 2nd red bull.

The difference maybe between old spec and new spec,i think you going down a rabbit hole into conspiracy theory stuff.what i never understood is why perez will win a race and struggle in next one there was never consistency and carry over.

[epo]

I can't wait for Max's race ban. The truth about the car's real performance will be revealed.

Yeah, can't wait to see Max being expose when Hadjar jumps in Max car for the first time and wins with ease, just like Russell in 2020. Every knowledgeable F1 fan knows Max drives a very different car than the 2nd red bull.

The difference maybe between old spec and new spec,i think you going down a rabbit hole into conspiracy theory stuff.what i never understood is why perez will win a race and struggle in next one there was never consistency and carry over.

Haters will be haters, they said the same stuff with Vettel and Webber, nothing new.

[PierreW]

The hard tyre was the best choice. He would have went backward on the used soft.
What people are failing to remember is that Max made a mistake at the restart by spinning up the tyres and losing control of the car. Had he been easier on the throttle and accept that he may lose a place on the restart, he would have overtaken Leclerc when the hards warmed up.
His pace was very good on the hard. His three mistakes today were the restart, not avoiding Charles, His two run ins with his bestie George. Otherwise he would have been at worst P4 and at best P3.

The hard tyre was the bad choice. Nobody used the hard tyre in that race, for one simple reason, it sucked hard in the practice. Max wasn't aware that he was being put in the hard tyre and immediately noted that something was wrong with his tyre when he left the pit.

Max did not make any mistake, the tyres made him spin. He saved the car beautifully. The car had no grip and was terrible, especially after a safetycar.

His pace was very bad on the hard. He had no chance to do better than P5. With his old softs, he would have started P1 with only 6 laps remaining.

Reb Bull made the worst possible choice, and that would deserve the title of worst choice of the year in my opinion. It was even worse because it put Max on the backfoot and made him very angry.

[Matt2725]

I think the penalty was unjustified. There's no proof that Verstappen intentionally hit Russell, and the accident was so minor, it didn't cause any danger or damage, that it shouldn't worth a penalty.

The FIA is harsher on Max than on anybody else.

Leclerc got no penalty for dangerous driving and colliding with Max on the straight. Russell got no penalty for "losing the control of his car" and colliding with Max pushing him into the escape zone.

Russell got a drive through for cutting a chicane 7 days ago. Max got 10 seconds for a intentional collision.

If that's "harsher" then I'm not sure we have the same definition of the word.

[PierreW]

I think the penalty was unjustified. There's no proof that Verstappen intentionally hit Russell, and the accident was so minor, it didn't cause any danger or damage, that it shouldn't worth a penalty.

The FIA is harsher on Max than on anybody else.

Leclerc got no penalty for dangerous driving and colliding with Max on the straight. Russell got no penalty for "losing the control of his car" and colliding with Max pushing him into the escape zone.

Russell got a drive through for cutting a chicane 7 days ago. Max got 10 seconds for a intentional collision.

If that's "harsher" then I'm not sure we have the same definition of the word.

Russell cheated, calm and cold. Max was furious and pushed Russel the way he was pushed by him. It was vengeance.

[avantman]

yes, hard for the best choice, undoubtedly so ! I find it really strange more other teams did not fit them! Because it was so much faster than 3 laps old soft, just after a couple of laps. are those other strategists stupid or what I wonder?

[Sergej]

actually, Max's pace on hard was not even that bad, he was faster than Charles on soft lol without that spin at the restart, I think he would have been able to keep P3

that is not to justify Red Bull's choice which was clearly a blunder

[FittingMechanics]

Russell cheated, calm and cold. Max was furious and pushed Russel the way he was pushed by him. It was vengeance.

Vengeance is much worse than cutting a chicane.