Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

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Depressing season.

I wish Hamilton the best of luck for next year, as I have a feeling he is going to need a lot of it driving for this team. They aren't necessarily perennially clueless or unprofessional, just very inconsistent over a season.

marcush.
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the talk does not match the reality and it´s getting worse and worse-at least that´is how it comes across.Formula 1 is also about efficiency .Money is very important but in no ways a guarantee of success.
The team has complety separated from those who are visible in public and are in sleepmode ..

Surprisingly not all teams who challenge MGP these days have pushed in terms of updates -namely Force India has stopped all activity on 2012s contender months ago but still has managed to edge closer to MGP...a clear indicator that MGP has lost
direction big time at the track for whatever reasons .

Schumacher stepping out of the car and just walking away in the last race was more then telling .They are definitely not pulling as team these days and it shows in lacklustre results.

the leaders don´t have the lead anymore and the workforce is doing whatever they think .

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spadeflush
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Daimler has apparently decided to pump in extra millions to kick start the lewis hamilton project.

http://www.yallaf1.com/2012/11/03/merce ... -for-2013/

I personally believe no amount of money is going to guarantee them success. Money cannot buy teamwork. As marcush says above, the team has horrendously lost its way. Unless their understanding capabilities do not improve, the extra money is going to go down the drain.
Forza Michael. Forza Jules

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spadeflush
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marcush. wrote: Surprisingly not all teams who challenge MGP these days have pushed in terms of updates -namely Force India has stopped all activity on 2012s contender months ago but still has managed to edge closer to MGP...a clear indicator that MGP has lost
direction big time at the track for whatever reasons .
Last year Mercedes stopped development much before the other teams but they maintained their position on the grid, sometimes showing good pace. This year they just cannot understand whats going on. Its baffling to see where they have ended up after starting the season with a very fast car. I still remember the post qualifying press conference in Australia where Michael was talking about how amazing the car feels to drive, comparing his steering inputs for W02 and W03.
Forza Michael. Forza Jules

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clipsy1H
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they are completely out of pace.... i really don't understand how can you lose all everything in 4 weeks (summer break) this car looks good in Belgium and Singapore but after :wtf:
edit: this team ](*,) ... why they choose to go out with brand new tiers in last 4 min when all small teams are on track.... i really can't believe another races without Q3 another weekend ruined. Thx God Nico are in and he will score some points tomorrow.

tomaswrx
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what happened with shumi in q2?

Ganxxta
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tomaswrx wrote:what happened with shumi in q2?
He was hoping to get another lap at the end, but was a few seconds to late, again...

Mika1
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spadeflush wrote:Daimler has apparently decided to pump in extra millions to kick start the lewis hamilton project.

http://www.yallaf1.com/2012/11/03/merce ... -for-2013/

I personally believe no amount of money is going to guarantee them success. Money cannot buy teamwork. As marcush says above, the team has horrendously lost its way. Unless their understanding capabilities do not improve, the extra money is going to go down the drain.
It will definitely help. More updates, more answers, more options.
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spadeflush
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Mika1 wrote:
spadeflush wrote:Daimler has apparently decided to pump in extra millions to kick start the lewis hamilton project.

http://www.yallaf1.com/2012/11/03/merce ... -for-2013/

I personally believe no amount of money is going to guarantee them success. Money cannot buy teamwork. As marcush says above, the team has horrendously lost its way. Unless their understanding capabilities do not improve, the extra money is going to go down the drain.
It will definitely help. More updates, more answers, more options.
Money helps, I am just saying Mercedes needs more than just an increased budget to improve. Teams with much lower budgets (Force India, Sauber) have been able to consistently beat them this year so something needs to be changed in the way track/factory operations are carried out. Looking from the outside it seems that there is no real sense of direction in terms of decision making. They clearly do not lack in resources. Optimization is the key, with whatever budget they have.

btw: mega lap from Rosberg. Sad mistake from Schumi
Forza Michael. Forza Jules

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Is it really Schumi's fault, or mistake of the team in screwing it again? Assuming that it is the team's fault, Schumi may choose to shoulder the blame himself, to save the team's face. :x

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Rosberg at least managing to get into 'Q3 but again Schumacher not making it around in time ...unbelievable...schumacher asked several times if he is going to get another lap ...lousy timing ...the driver is not well placed to judge how quick he needs to go to make that call...

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marcush. wrote:Rosberg at least managing to get into 'Q3 but again Schumacher not making it around in time ...unbelievable...schumacher asked several times if he is going to get another lap ...lousy timing ...the driver is not well placed to judge how quick he needs to go to make that call...
Apart from the inbox part, which I assume, it was like this:
[Driver is in the Box]
Team: "Michael you have 2 flying laps, use the first to condition the tires, we go out in x minutes"

<Heard in teamradio on TV>
[Driver is in his 1st flying lap]
MSC: "Do I have another lap?"
Team: "Negative" :roll:
[Driver comes to Box after crossing the line too late]
Team: "Sorry Michael"


But the team already blamed Michael, they said he used Kers wrong.

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clipsy1H
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i don't know what really happened maybe was Michael fault i don't want to blame team if i'm not sure. But what i want (that's my Christmas wish) After this season i want Michael to tell us what happened in these three years at Mercedes. I don't want him to consider the friends and tell us only the truth

marcush.
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Ganxxta wrote:
marcush. wrote:Rosberg at least managing to get into 'Q3 but again Schumacher not making it around in time ...unbelievable...schumacher asked several times if he is going to get another lap ...lousy timing ...the driver is not well placed to judge how quick he needs to go to make that call...
Apart from the inbox part, which I assume, it was like this:
[Driver is in the Box]
Team: "Michael you have 2 flying laps, use the first to condition the tires, we go out in x minutes"

<Heard in teamradio on TV>
[Driver is in his 1st flying lap]
MSC: "Do I have another lap?"
Team: "Negative" :roll:
[Driver comes to Box after crossing the line too late]
Team: "Sorry Michael"


But the team already blamed Michael, they said he used Kers wrong.

that´s even worse..to have to ask if the lap you are currently in is your last...
and then blaming the driver for doing something wrong in another area...Kers is worth 0.5 s perlap -is this true for qualy conditions as well?
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yener
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It doesnt matter if he starts in top 10 or outside.

Nico will lose some positions and Michael will win some so they will meet each other in lap 15 and after the first stop they both will fall back to p11 and p12 waiting till Michael car will have another gearbox or DRS failure.

Anybody want to put money to prove im wrong?
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