2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[mzso]

I'll only believe it when I see it. Their recent history with updates has never been in their favor; on the contrary, I'd venture to say it could get even worse than it is now. Yes, I believe it could still get worse.

They didn't have any updates. Honda implemented something to reduce vibrations, but that's not a PU update, and probably has a weight penalty. Also it was said that the engine cannot be run at full power until the mounting is redesigned, so there is a lot to gain. Of course it's entirely possible to mess things up again, but less likely.

[venkyhere]

Why didn't Gasly get a penalty for speeding in the pitlane over the previous 8 years he's raced at Monaco? The rule didn't change, the way they measure it didn't change...His approach this year did change though. Between FPs, Qualifying and the race, he must use the pitlane limiter 20 times a year @ Monaco.....If a guy has done something 20 times a year for 8 years and never gotten it wrong now gets it wrong only during the race twice ...something he's doing changed.

You can say what you want about how it's measured but he knew the rule going in and has known it for now 9 years! He better learn it cause it will be the same next year.

As I said it has nothing to do with the rules! Nor with Gasly doing anything wrong.
He abided by the rules and still got penalized.

"something he's doing changed." - or not. More likely the FIA set up the speed measurement even crappier than usual. Or the extra pits exposed its inadequacy more.

ok, so what is the rule?

Is it that you can't go faster than 60KPH in the pitlane? or is it ? in the pit lane you can't go from point A to point B in less than X time ?

The way I understand it...it is...That you can't go faster than 60KPH in the pitlane as measure from point A to point B in less than X time.

what if the calibrated X time @ exact 60kph, is not via a straight path (erroneously) , whilst a straight path @ exact 60kph consumes X-delta(x) duration ? Is there a possibility that half the drivers were not straight enough and 'escaped' the wrong calibration, whilst half of them, optimized their driving lines to be straight and fell prey to the wrong calibration ?

As a spectator watching on TV, how can any of us armchair experts definitively claim one (wrong calibration of speed by the team/late pitlane button press by driver) v/s the other (wrong calibration of the measuring apparatus) scenario ? We simply don't know. What we know, is that the driver is penalized and FIA isn't held accountable , whether it's one or the other.

[mzso]

what if the calibrated X time @ exact 60kph, is not via a straight path (erroneously) , whilst a straight path @ exact 60kph consumes X-delta(x) duration ? Is there a possibility that half the drivers were not straight enough and 'escaped' the wrong calibration, whilst half of them, optimized their driving lines to be straight and fell prey to the wrong calibration ?

More like they were too straight... The FIA painte pretty curves that are less practicual to use.

As a spectator watching on TV, how can any of us armchair experts definitively claim one (wrong calibration of speed by the team/late pitlane button press by driver) v/s the other (wrong calibration of the measuring apparatus) scenario ? We simply don't know. What we know, is that the driver is penalized and FIA isn't held accountable , whether it's one or the other.

The number of violations registered is damning evidence on the FIA's measurements.

[mzso]

ok, so what is the rule?

That they can't go above 60 in the pitlane. That's simple enough. The rules are not about sensors or about driving in a way that suits defective measurement methods.
Hopefully Alpine will have enough evidence, via GPS and/or the speedometer in the car.

[diffuser]

ok, so what is the rule?

That they can't go above 60 in the pitlane. That's simple enough. The rules are not about sensors or about driving in a way that suits defective measurement methods.
Hopefully Alpine will have enough evidence, via GPS and/or the speedometer in the car.

You never know with these guys but the Alpine's speedometer has nothing to do with the regulation. The question always comes down to is 60 kph the dumb'd rule for the masses while the actual rule is how it is measure?

If you take the 16:1 CR rule. For the first half of the year everyone new that Merc was running higher that 16:1 CR when the ICE was at operating temperature. Everyone knew the rule was 16:1 but it is how it is measured that counts.

[Rodak]

If the FIA measure pit speed by time over distance then the rule actually says the average speed must be less than 60 kph, not that the instantaneous speed be less than 60 kph.....

[NAPI10]

I'll only believe it when I see it. Their recent history with updates has never been in their favor; on the contrary, I'd venture to say it could get even worse than it is now. Yes, I believe it could still get worse.

What difference would it make it we believed it before we saw it ?

U start the weekend with loads of hope, then gets disappointed.Weekend goes for the toss

[V10FURY]

Newey and team info:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/adrian-ne ... artin-plan

Newey revealed after Aston Martin arrived late to January’s pre-season shakedown in Barcelona that the design and development of the AMR26 car had been heavily compromised.

He estimated that the team was “on the back foot by about four months” compared to its rivals, admitting “the car only came together at the last minute.”

Speaking in Monaco last weekend, he went on to confirm that Aston Martin’s poor preparation for F1 2026 has led to a rethink, allowing the team to “do our research much more carefully” going forward.

Asked how he is helping to motivate drivers Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll, Newey replied: “It’s a long, hard slog for them obviously.

“We took the decision after Melbourne that, rather than doing piecemeal updates, we’d take our time to put systems in place and do our research much more carefully.“Everything was such a rush to get the car out for Melbourne, we said: ‘OK, we’ll endure the short-term pain and hopefully make a decent step when we make it.'”

PlanetF1.com understands that Newey is expected to attend other events this season following his comeback in Monaco.

His schedule is understood to be similar to that of his immediate predecessor, Andy Cowell, who attended between 10 and 14 races per season.

Rather than being a near-constant presence in the paddock like other team bosses, it is believed that Newey chooses the races he attends based on where he feels he can bring most value to the team.

Newey did not undertake further media duties in Monte Carlo last weekend with Aston Martin ambassador Pedro de La Rosa instead appearing in Friday’s team representatives’ press conference.

De la Rosa also carried out media engagements in the aftermath of Sunday’s race after Mike Krack, the former Aston Martin team boss who now acts as chief trackside officer, appeared before the press on Thursday.

Newey previously told PlanetF1.com and other media outlets in Australia that he has found his new responsibilities as team principal “a little bit” distracting from his core work on car design and development.



I am hoping that the team can bring some kind of upgraded B spec car that pushes them forward, but I am not holding my breath at this point either.

[hollus]

Moving on from PitGate. Send it to the race thread. It is off topic here (me myself being guilty )