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Good "witness" marks on rear tyres in above post, virtually even distribution from centre line for dust pickup, indicating they are set to VIRTUALLY zero static camber in presentation to track surface.

One of the ingredients in McL tyre wear/durability operational sphere.

Likely make the "decay" in ultimate lateral grip a little "pacey" which we see and hear from the drivers.

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Keep in mind with a stiffer wing there will be more load which in turn means more deflection.

So the change in deflection on the straight won’t be as pronounced as the change from a static load. It will find an equilibrium.
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Farnborough wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:25
Good "witness" marks on rear tyres in above post, virtually even distribution from centre line for dust pickup, indicating they are set to VIRTUALLY zero static camber in presentation to track surface.

One of the ingredients in McL tyre wear/durability operational sphere.

Likely make the "decay" in ultimate lateral grip a little "pacey" which we see and hear from the drivers.
It was the same on the tyres from Aus that were posted, literally nothing had happened on the shoulders of the inters with uniform wear across the contact patch.

I maintain my belief that they are doing some mechanical magic that is enabling the car to keep a very constant contact patch with the road with minimal slide, and this will be a big part of the reason the tyres have better thermals, as well as consistent DF.
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delete please.
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Rikhart wrote:
30 May 2025, 18:36
Emag wrote:
30 May 2025, 16:08
Cs98 wrote:
30 May 2025, 15:41

Judging by this tweet I don't think that's what he was saying.
He was being sarcastic about the "huge difference".

You can find posts about RedBull and Ferrari and how they are exhibiting similar levels of flex as pre TD as well.
No, absolutely not, he is saying "huge difference" with emphasis, what he is being sarcastic about is everyone saying there will not be any performance loss. This is clear as day.
I made a second comment clarifying that I missunderstood.
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I seemed to have caused all the people to misunderstand me, props for that... #-o Still not sure how that happened, but whatever

Sarcasm was aimed at McLaren saying there's no difference for them and that their old wing was already compliant. It was always clear it isn't :mrgreen:

The difference between old and new spec is huge, even with g flaps the new spec has flap trailing edge moving significnalty less at high speed

I've also pointed all that out this morning, with Imola FP1 comparison
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Would be interesting to get the same level of "end of straight scrutiny" for all other teams, to compare how much of a change it is for them and their new wings compared to McLaren reinforced ones.

Did their "low" level of flex became no flex at all?

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FittingMechanics wrote:
30 May 2025, 23:25
Would be interesting to get the same level of "end of straight scrutiny" for all other teams, to compare how much of a change it is for them and their new wings compared to McLaren reinforced ones.

Did their "low" level of flex became no flex at all?
I think RedBull and Ferrari both have wings which have similar levels of flex as before the TD, which means that they, unlike McLaren, were probably TD-compliant (or very close to it) already.

Ferrari geometry changes seem to be an actual upgrade rather than a "TD-forced" change. They were running with a late-2024 SF24 front wing, so I guess they took this chance to deliver an evolution instead of just stiffening up their previous version.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
30 May 2025, 19:42
I seemed to have caused all the people to misunderstand me, props for that... #-o Still not sure how that happened, but whatever

Sarcasm was aimed at McLaren saying there's no difference for them and that their old wing was already compliant. It was always clear it isn't :mrgreen:

The difference between old and new spec is huge, even with g flaps the new spec has flap trailing edge moving significnalty less at high speed

I've also pointed all that out this morning, with Imola FP1 comparison
And the area where they added extra bracing isn't even in the image.

Looking at your contributions on both Ferrari and Mclaren topics, Mclaren possibly still have a bit more flex, but it's quite close now... previously Mclaren had a ton more.

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I know it seems cynical, but keep in mind guys, the engineers are not making mods to stop this happening, they are making mods to pass the test
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Huge Brake Air Exit

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Rear cooling exit is larger in Barcelona?
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De Wet wrote:
31 May 2025, 11:35
https://i.ibb.co/V7trY24/Gs-Mj-Tcu-Xk-AAmpl-L.jpg


Huge Brake Air Exit
That does seem much larger than usual, even larger than the fronts.
It doesn't turn.

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MCL39, Catalunya, Saturday

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RB20 turned to 11.

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