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[CjC]

Horner:
Red Bull have lodged TWO Russell protests
Christian Horner's briefly-delayed post-race briefing with the written media has now taken place, with the Red Bull chief revealing they have actually lodged TWO protests related to George Russell's driving behind the Safety Car at the end of the race:
"Two protests that we've put to the stewards, that we've asked them to have a look at.
"Firstly relating to the erratic driving behind the Safety Car, where George very heavily braked, obviously looking in his mirror for Max.
"Then the second one is very clearly the distance that was left behind the Safety Car that was well in excess, I think at least three times in excess, of the permitted distance.
"It's within our right to obviously protest that, so we've lodged the protest, it's with the stewards now, and we'll see what they say."

[Seanspeed]

He himself does not share anything. He has admitted as much with Perez.
The team are free to share data of course.
But driver to driver tips m. Never heard of that from Max.

That's like the default standard in F1. Drivers will typically not go out of their way to help their teammate. So long as Max isn't making any kind of fuss trying to block the other driver from getting his data, then nothing he's doing here is particularly selfish or abnormal.

Which is what I said if you read what I wrote. He does not share, and that's what's expected. He cannot block the data either, even if he wanted to. The engineers decide what is disseminated to the drivers.

That's not what you said. Anybody with a brain could read your post and see you were trying to make it sound like Max was particularly selfish and implicated that he's a big reason his teammates had been particularly poor against him because he wasn't willing to go out of his way to help them, which even you agree now no other driver does.

[SB15]

Christian Horner just basically confirmed Max's P2 on his recent instagram post.

[Watto]

Christian Horner just basically confirmed Max's P2 on his recent instagram post.

Yeah saw they have withdrawn the protest. Probably the risk with Max's overtaking too and though we will et 2nd place be.

[lio007]

This is why I call this team toxic basically! They lose fair and square on track yet they try to find a way to win off it! Sore losers…
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Why? They are in a championship battle and every F1 has the right to lodge a protest. Why would you even keep this possibility when it's immediately deemed "toxic"?
IMO RBR had nothing to lose and I'd call it courageous and a winning mentality.

[Quantum]

Good on you for realising it didn't happen on the finish straight, not sure that was ever in dispute, you may have misunderstood what I was saying there.

Max was doing it on the same straight(now proven from telemetery). I stipulated in my post on the finish line as neither did it there.

Cool, what does that have to do with George phoning it in to the principal's office to report on a situation that he caused? I take issue with George trying to get Max penalised with a cheap brake check, I never said it reached the level where George should be penalised.

And Max phoning it in to his principals office complaining about the very thing he himself was doing laps previously?
No issue with that?

[Quantum]

I have no idea what you're on about now, I just saw a blatant lie and corrected it, that's all.

Do you see now? (point 15)

[Cs98]

Good on you for realising it didn't happen on the finish straight, not sure that was ever in dispute, you may have misunderstood what I was saying there.

Max was doing it on the same straight(now proven from telemetery). I stipulated in my post on the finish line as neither did it there.

Cool, what does that have to do with George phoning it in to the principal's office to report on a situation that he caused? I take issue with George trying to get Max penalised with a cheap brake check, I never said it reached the level where George should be penalised.

And Max phoning it in to his principals office complaining about the very thing he himself was doing laps previously?
No issue with that?

If you pass someone under SC and it’s because they slam on the brakes in front you probably want to communicate that so that the stewards don’t get the wrong idea. I don’t see the issue with that. Russell saw Max close, braked hard, and then immediately went fishing on the radio, I view that differently because it is different.

Anyways, I’ve already explained I don’t think any of this is worthy of a penalty.

[kurtj]

Good on you for realising it didn't happen on the finish straight, not sure that was ever in dispute, you may have misunderstood what I was saying there.

Max was doing it on the same straight(now proven from telemetery). I stipulated in my post on the finish line as neither did it there.

Cool, what does that have to do with George phoning it in to the principal's office to report on a situation that he caused? I take issue with George trying to get Max penalised with a cheap brake check, I never said it reached the level where George should be penalised.

And Max phoning it in to his principals office complaining about the very thing he himself was doing laps previously?
No issue with that?

If you pass someone under SC and it’s because they slam on the brakes in front you probably want to communicate that so that the stewards don’t get the wrong idea. I don’t see the issue with that. Russell saw Max close, braked hard, and then immediately went fishing on the radio, I view that differently because it is different.

Anyways, I’ve already explained I don’t think any of this is worthy of a penalty.

Onus is always on driver behind to expect the driver ahead to brake, to keep temperatures behind SC. Basic racing skill. Max has a habit of getting alongside the driver ahead, which is something he should learn and correct. Others don't do that, they all use the brain correctly in these situations. This is not new. It was a clear infringement and should have resulted in a penalty.

[Watto]

I have no idea what you're on about now, I just saw a blatant lie and corrected it, that's all.

Do you see now? (point 15)
https://preview.redd.it/red-bulls-prote ... 1a550c2987

Your point though was George didn't brake. He did, clearly. I did say in a thread not sure if here or the race thread George would probably say he was warming his brakes. Had you said that you'd be right or have an argument I suspect a little this along with the SC being slow is why Max didn't get a penalty for over taking probably a fair decision in the end.

[Watto]

Max was doing it on the same straight(now proven from telemetery). I stipulated in my post on the finish line as neither did it there.




And Max phoning it in to his principals office complaining about the very thing he himself was doing laps previously?
No issue with that?

If you pass someone under SC and it’s because they slam on the brakes in front you probably want to communicate that so that the stewards don’t get the wrong idea. I don’t see the issue with that. Russell saw Max close, braked hard, and then immediately went fishing on the radio, I view that differently because it is different.

Anyways, I’ve already explained I don’t think any of this is worthy of a penalty.

Onus is always on driver behind to expect the driver ahead to brake, to keep temperatures behind SC. Basic racing skill. Max has a habit of getting alongside the driver ahead, which is something he should learn and correct. Others don't do that, they all use the brain correctly in these situations. This is not new. It was a clear infringement and should have resulted in a penalty.

That being the case why didn't Charles get a penalty last week for overtaking Max on the main straight? Yes Max has the wobble but not enough to really mean he had to get alongside Max they had not made the S/F line by then Oscar probably had just.

I would say looking at the decision if George braked right in front of Max and caused a collision it probably would have been on George that he checked his mirrors Max wasn't directly behind him so it was safe for him to do so. I tend to think both had enough mitigating circumstances the stewards just let it go

[Quantum]

I saw your lie immediately, yes, and then corrected it. The rest is just something called whataboutism, it's what's called a logical fallacy.

I said finish line. CLEARLY. There is no correction to be made.

Or just follow the car over the finish line. Easy to see that Russell didnt brake and kept a steady pace. Not hard is it.

If you are suggesting that George should suffer a penalty for warming his brakes, then so too should Verstappen as backed by the telemetry and onboards. Which is exactly why I posted about the finish line and NOT the casino straight as how remarkable is it to protest a driver when RB's own driver did the same on the previous 2 laps?

[Matt-A]

It's disappointing that Red Bull lodged a protest on this point. It taints what was otherwise quite a good day for them.

[euv2]

It's incredible that Norris got away without getting any penalty points, the FIA has absolutely no consistency whatsoever, considering some of the head scratching penalty points they gave Max in Austria and Qatar, their decision making never feels fair.

[Wouter]

I doubt that. Russell was fishing for it when he saw Max was close. It would set a bad precedent if you were allowed to bait penalties by braking erratically under SC.

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Or just follow the car over the finish line. Easy to see that Russell didnt brake and kept a steady pace. Not hard is it.

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Maybe you should visite Specsavers.

https://imgur.com/a/mXU6V3u