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HampusA wrote:He can´t put himself in a bad position. With that talent you can do whatever you want basically unless you start crashing out in every single race not picking up any points.

He´s designed to win, therefore he needs the fastest car on the grid, it´s understandable.
There is no such thing as loyalty in F1 even if they nursed you since you first got into a go-cart.
how is he not is a bad position when all other 3 top teams already have a WDC in their drivers line up.

Ferrari - Alonso
RBR - Vettel
Merc - MS

One must have thought that these top teams would be more than happy to get rid of their existing "no.1" driver and make room for Lewis. Just like how Ferrari got rid of Kimi for Alonso.
Notably, McLaren have another WDC there too. What makes you think a team can't have two WDCs at it.

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the power of the advertising houses should`nt be under estimated. Red Bull is traditionally a youngsters drink and for sure thats where the larger percentage of the target market lies. To have 2 of the youngest most marketable and trendy guys driving for Red Bull would be an opportunity that the advertising house handling the RB account must be dying to secure.The revenue would be phenomenal. :o

Barring that it might be an attempt by LH to throw himself back into the limelight and a way to take the focus off his on track problems….if it is, it`s working….. :lol:
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CHT wrote:how is he not is a bad position when all other 3 top teams already have a WDC in their drivers line up.

Ferrari - Alonso
RBR - Vettel
Merc - MS

One must have thought that these top teams would be more than happy to get rid of their existing "no.1" driver and make room for Lewis. Just like how Ferrari got rid of Kimi for Alonso.

I guess you haven´t heard what Ferrari and Red Bull has said (even though Horner now seems to have changed his mind) but take Ferrari. Domenicali said the door is never closed for a driver of Hamiltons caliber.

Frankly it would be downright stupid to say no to Hamilton if let´s say his contract is over with Mclaren and he doesn´t sign a new one.

Horner can say what he wants now, he knows there will be issues but no way in hell he would say no to Hamilton and close the door.
All team bosses know Hamilton and what he is capable off.
Hamilton can go to whatever team he likes, trust me.

If Hamilton knocked on Ferrari´s door today, Massa would be out tomorrow with a nice healthy check in his hand.
The truth will come out...

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Traction wrote:the power of the advertising houses should`nt be under estimated. Red Bull is traditionally a youngsters drink and for sure thats where the larger percentage of the target market lies. To have 2 of the youngest most marketable and trendy guys driving for Red Bull would be an opportunity that the advertising house handling the RB account must be dying to secure.The revenue would be phenomenal. :o

Barring that it might be an attempt by LH to throw himself back into the limelight and a way to take the focus off his on track problems….if it is, it`s working….. :lol:
He's already in the limelight; that's why RedBull want him. Did you see all those celebrities in the Mclaren pits? George Lucas, Collin Farrel, Olympic sprinters Richard Thompson (and some other dude), Riannah, Drake, Ice-T and Coco and many more.. You just can't beat that. 8)
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beelsebob wrote: Notably, McLaren have another WDC there too. What makes you think a team can't have two WDCs at it.
This is not about weather a team can have 2 WDC, but rather about how Lewis could end up in a situation where he cant leave Mclaren and join a top team as no.1 driver.

Having 2 WDC is good for the team, but it will lower the chance of drivers winning the WDC because both WDC will inevitably be taking point off one another.

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beelsebob wrote: Notably, McLaren have another WDC there too. What makes you think a team can't have two WDCs at it.
This is not about weather a team can have 2 WDC, but rather about how Lewis could end up in a situation where he cant leave Mclaren and join a top team as no.1 driver.

Having 2 WDC is good for the team, but it will lower the chance of drivers winning the WDC because both WDC will inevitably be taking point off one another.
I'm pretty confident that neither RBR or Merc have a "number 1 driver" clause in their contract, just like McLaren. I'm sure Ferrari do, so that pretty much rules that out.

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n smikle wrote:
Traction wrote:the power of the advertising houses should`nt be under estimated. Red Bull is traditionally a youngsters drink and for sure thats where the larger percentage of the target market lies. To have 2 of the youngest most marketable and trendy guys driving for Red Bull would be an opportunity that the advertising house handling the RB account must be dying to secure.The revenue would be phenomenal. :o

Barring that it might be an attempt by LH to throw himself back into the limelight and a way to take the focus off his on track problems….if it is, it`s working….. :lol:
He's already in the limelight; that's why RedBull want him. Did you see all those celebrities in the Mclaren pits? George Lucas, Collin Farrel, Olympic sprinters Richard Thompson (and some other dude), Riannah, Drake, Ice-T and Coco and many more.. You just can't beat that. 8)
Thats true and I think its part of what LH is ...please don`t take offence to this but imo he`s a media whore...perhaps his focus is shifting onto marketing himself rather than racing hence his less than great performances of late....no denying he has a star quality though..
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Traction wrote:Thats true and I think its part of what LH is ...please don`t take offence to this but imo he`s a media whore...perhaps his focus is shifting onto marketing himself rather than racing hence his less than great performances of late....no denying he has a star quality though..
No question about that – LH absolutely does whore himself to the media.

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HampusA wrote:I guess you haven´t heard what Ferrari and Red Bull has said (even though Horner now seems to have changed his mind) but take Ferrari. Domenicali said the door is never closed for a driver of Hamiltons caliber.

Frankly it would be downright stupid to say no to Hamilton if let´s say his contract is over with Mclaren and he doesn´t sign a new one.

Horner can say what he wants now, he knows there will be issues but no way in hell he would say no to Hamilton and close the door.
All team bosses know Hamilton and what he is capable off.
Hamilton can go to whatever team he likes, trust me.

If Hamilton knocked on Ferrari´s door today, Massa would be out tomorrow with a nice healthy check in his hand.
I have heard Lewis saying he could easily drive for Mclaren for the whole of his Formula One career, and here we are talking about Lewis leaving Mclaren.

Don't get me wrong, Lewis is a great driver which every top team would love of sign...BUT given the current circumstance, where ALONSO and Ferrari are happily married with a new long term contract, while RBR protege Vettel and the team are en route to winning another double world champion and with a new contract extension, it will be very difficult to see how any of these 2 teams can justify fitting Lewis into the team.
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beelsebob wrote:
Traction wrote:Thats true and I think its part of what LH is ...please don`t take offence to this but imo he`s a media whore...perhaps his focus is shifting onto marketing himself rather than racing hence his less than great performances of late....no denying he has a star quality though..
No question about that – LH absolutely does whore himself to the media.
Sponsors love it and hey...it brings home the bacon.... :lol:
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beelsebob wrote: I'm pretty confident that neither RBR or Merc have a "number 1 driver" clause in their contract, just like McLaren. I'm sure Ferrari do, so that pretty much rules that out.
Unless Merc decided against having a all german line up, I dont see how Lewis will have a chance with Merc. Unless MS quit or else it will be unlikely that MS or Merc will want Lewis to discredit him on the same machine. IIRC, Merc did have to ask Rosberg to give up the no.3 car to MS last season right? Does that not consider as some form of team order?

I honestly cant see any benefit of RBR signing Lewis at the moment. Vettel is a RBR protege, the youngest WDC, they just extended his contract and they are leading both championships with a healthy margin. Having Lewis at RBR will most probably unsettle the team more than anything else.

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Traction wrote:the power of the advertising houses should`nt be under estimated. Red Bull is traditionally a youngsters drink and for sure thats where the larger percentage of the target market lies. To have 2 of the youngest most marketable and trendy guys driving for Red Bull would be an opportunity that the advertising house handling the RB account must be dying to secure.The revenue would be phenomenal. :o

Barring that it might be an attempt by LH to throw himself back into the limelight and a way to take the focus off his on track problems….if it is, it`s working….. :lol:
I think RBR will sell more drinks if Lewis in Mclaren continue to get beaten by RBR and RBR sign Kobayashi as 2nd driver.

Come 2013, Lewis will be nearing his 30s, do you still consider him as youngster?

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CHT wrote:
Traction wrote:the power of the advertising houses should`nt be under estimated. Red Bull is traditionally a youngsters drink and for sure thats where the larger percentage of the target market lies. To have 2 of the youngest most marketable and trendy guys driving for Red Bull would be an opportunity that the advertising house handling the RB account must be dying to secure.The revenue would be phenomenal. :o

Barring that it might be an attempt by LH to throw himself back into the limelight and a way to take the focus off his on track problems….if it is, it`s working….. :lol:
I think RBR will sell more drinks if Lewis in Mclaren continue to get beaten by RBR and RBR sign Kobayashi as 2nd driver.

Come 2013, Lewis will be nearing his 30s, do you still consider him as youngster?
Well he will only be 28 in 2013 and if Schumacher is still around in comparison he will still be a baby :lol: srsly though...still young enough to be an attraction for the youth and target market for RB. Why Kob though?
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CHT wrote:I have heard Lewis saying he could easily drive for Mclaren for the whole of his Formula One career, and here we are talking about Lewis leaving Mclaren.

Don't get me wrong, Lewis is a great driver which every top team would love of sign...BUT given the current circumstance, where ALONSO and Ferrari are happily married with a new long term contract, while RBR protege Vettel and the team are en route to winning another double world champion and with a new contract extension, it will be very difficult to see how any of these 2 teams can justify fitting Lewis into the team.
You honestly think Vettel and Alonso have a clause in the contract saying, they are forbidden to sign Hamilton? :)

Look at it this way, Senna/Prost, fastest drivers on the grid in the fastest cars.
Sure they will take points of each other but they will also take points from the other drivers.

I can garantuee you Hamilton will leave if the car isn´t competitive or if he wants to RBR or Ferrari.

It all comes down to how good nect years car is because loyalty doesn´t exist in F1.
The truth will come out...

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why sign lewis when you can sign button?
personally i think lewis has more skill.
but button has more points