Is Hamilton desperate or what?

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I think Hamilton is a bit desperate now even though I think he is probably driving just fine.

Button is the McLaren hero of the moment with two wins, Hamilton has none, and the Red Bull is disappearing off in the distance. The Red Bulls have just proven they are untouchable on street courses in addition to regular circuits. Where will Hamilton have a chance for a win? Perhaps Spa and Monza (low downforce circuits)? Perhaps a rain race? He is close to being locked into having fewer race wins than his teammate this year.

Then next year the cars go back to single deck diffusers. Hmmm, what car was fastest with a single deck diffuser? Oh yea, Red Bull. This can't be an easy time for Hamilton.

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bill shoe wrote:I think Hamilton is a bit desperate now even though I think he is probably driving just fine.

Button is the McLaren hero of the moment with two wins, Hamilton has none, and the Red Bull is disappearing off in the distance. The Red Bulls have just proven they are untouchable on street courses in addition to regular circuits. Where will Hamilton have a chance for a win? Perhaps Spa and Monza (low downforce circuits)? Perhaps a rain race? He is close to being locked into having fewer race wins than his teammate this year.

Then next year the cars go back to single deck diffusers. Hmmm, what car was fastest with a single deck diffuser? Oh yea, Red Bull. This can't be an easy time for Hamilton.
+1. And Red Bull will have an "f-duct" soon -- maybe Turkey. Given Newey's aero genius, it's reasonable to assume the Red Bull could gain another performance jump.
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I see the Hamilton fanboys are getting a bit hot under the collar.

In Spa 2008, Hamilton made an illegal pass on Massa. That is an undeniable fact (unless you happen to be a Hamilton fanboy, then truth and fact become amazingly ductile).

I imagine that if it was Massa that made an illegal pass on Hamilton, you would all be baying for his blood. Double standards again me thinks.

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Hamilton is fine. He knows he is driving his best and that the only thing that is stopping him is the car and the team. I don't even think the RedBull's can stop him from winning the WDC. Hamilton's car only needs to be within 0.5 seconds of RedBull for him to stand a chance of winning.
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n smikle wrote:Hamilton is fine. He knows he is driving his best and that the only thing that is stopping him is the car and the team. I don't even think the RedBull's can stop him from winning the WDC. Hamilton's car only needs to be within 0.5 seconds of RedBull for him to stand a chance of winning.
a typical fanboy comment;-) His car is already within 0.5s of the RBs on race pace, so what? I don't see LH even beeing close to threaten them.

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n smikle wrote:Hamilton is fine. He knows he is driving his best and that the only thing that is stopping him is the car and the team. I don't even think the RedBull's can stop him from winning the WDC. Hamilton's car only needs to be within 0.5 seconds of RedBull for him to stand a chance of winning.
Oooo I dont know. I think there is the very real possibilty Lewis realsies that not only may he not be the best in F1, he may not even be the best at McLaren! :lol:
Red Bull will win both the constuctors and the drivers championship this year, and there is nothing Lewis can do to stop that. Unless of course McLaren get somthing banned on the Bull, which I understand they keep trying to do at most races :oops:
More could have been done.
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andrew wrote:I see the Hamilton fanboys are getting a bit hot under the collar.

In Spa 2008, Hamilton made an illegal pass on Massa. That is an undeniable fact (unless you happen to be a Hamilton fanboy, then truth and fact become amazingly ductile).

I imagine that if it was Massa that made an illegal pass on Hamilton, you would all be baying for his blood. Double standards again me thinks.
On Massa? When and where? Do you mean Raikkonen?

If Raikkonen, then it is hardly an undeniable fact now, is it? As I said, he didn't pass him through the chicane, he passed him at the subsequent corner. Whether it is right or wrong is clearly open to debate.

And frankly resorting to calling people fanboys goes to show your immaturity, in my opinion. Either have a meaningful debate with the grown-ups or go back to play group.

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
n smikle wrote:Hamilton is fine. He knows he is driving his best and that the only thing that is stopping him is the car and the team. I don't even think the RedBull's can stop him from winning the WDC. Hamilton's car only needs to be within 0.5 seconds of RedBull for him to stand a chance of winning.
Oooo I dont know. I think there is the very real possibilty Lewis realsies that not only may he not be the best in F1, he may not even be the best at McLaren! :lol:
Red Bull will win both the constuctors and the drivers championship this year, and there is nothing Lewis can do to stop that. Unless of course McLaren get somthing banned on the Bull, which I understand they keep trying to do at most races :oops:
Yes but only because RB keep putting bits on their cars just for McLaren to ban.
McLaren STILL have no idea why the RBs are so fast.
Shame innit.

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autogyro wrote: Yes but only because RB keep putting bits on their cars just for McLaren to ban.
McLaren STILL have no idea why the RBs are so fast.
Shame innit.
oh they know all too well. His name is Adrian. :)
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andrew wrote:I see the Hamilton fanboys are getting a bit hot under the collar.

In Spa 2008, Hamilton made an illegal pass on Massa. That is an undeniable fact (unless you happen to be a Hamilton fanboy, then truth and fact become amazingly ductile).

I imagine that if it was Massa that made an illegal pass on Hamilton, you would all be baying for his blood. Double standards again me thinks.
Your "Facts" are irrefutable... maybe you should actually watch the race

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andrew wrote:I see the Hamilton fanboys are getting a bit hot under the collar.

In Spa 2008, Hamilton made an illegal pass on Massa. That is an undeniable fact (unless you happen to be a Hamilton fanboy, then truth and fact become amazingly ductile).

I imagine that if it was Massa that made an illegal pass on Hamilton, you would all be baying for his blood. Double standards again me thinks.
You go on like one of those people that I used to go to school with - who thought that it was cool to side with "cool group", because they thought it made them look good.

The language that you use hints that you have a modicum of decency, but the sadly words don't match. You let yourself down. For shame! :o
Yer.

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Hangaku wrote:
You go on like one of those people that I used to go to school with - who thought that it was cool to side with "cool group", because they thought it made them look good.

The language that you use hints that you have a modicum of decency, but the sadly words don't match. You let yourself down. For shame! :o
You are a beacon of fanboi light! :lol:
To judge someones social leanings on F1technical becuase he disagrees with your view is definately not cool.
But I digress, is it not clearly evident that Hamilton has been ruffled by events of this year. 2 Button victories will do that to a man...look at Barrichello last year! :o
More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: You are a beacon of fanboi light! :lol:
To judge someones social leanings on F1technical becuase he disagrees with your view is definately not cool.
But I digress, is it not clearly evident that Hamilton has been ruffled by events of this year. 2 Button victories will do that to a man...look at Barrichello last year! :o
No-one's judging social leanings nor points of view except you and your 'fanboy' nonsense.

If Hamilton was so 'ruffled', as you say, wouldn't we see him making rash mistakes and errors? Or is your entire argument based on the fact that he spoke up on the radio? If so, how about Alonso's reaction to Glock at Monaco for not letting him past? How about Schumacher losing it at Coulthard in Spa. How about Piquet getting physical with Salazar? And Senna storming out at the Suzuka 1990 drivers' briefing?

These are undisputed greats of this sport, and it sounds as though Lewis is going to fit in nicely amongst that bunch. Interested in your thoughts.

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
Hangaku wrote:
You go on like one of those people that I used to go to school with - who thought that it was cool to side with "cool group", because they thought it made them look good.

The language that you use hints that you have a modicum of decency, but the sadly words don't match. You let yourself down. For shame! :o
You are a beacon of fanboi light! :lol:
To judge someones social leanings on F1technical becuase he disagrees with your view is definately not cool.
But I digress, is it not clearly evident that Hamilton has been ruffled by events of this year. 2 Button victories will do that to a man...look at Barrichello last year! :o
Wow look! You've added a whole new angle to this whole thread! Oh no hang on, the other thing.
Yer.