2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

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Does anyone know when the race will be replayed on Directv/NBCSN. It was preempted while live on NBC and the normal replay time tonight at 7 PM. WTH? I would really like to watch the race.
Thanks for any replies.

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Iotar, you can't be taken serious. Australia 2016 anyone?

Everytime something happens within the Mercedes team, it's Hamilton's fault in your eyes.

Hamilton > Rosberg, keep on looking for excuses all you want.

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Decent race overall, very disappointing for Ricciardo (bit of Webber's luck again) but a decent result for Max, he did a particularly good job holding off the much faster Rosberg at the end of the race.
"In downforce we trust"

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djos wrote:Decent race overall, very disappointing for Ricciardo (bit of Webber's luck again) but a decent result for Max, he did a particularly good job holding off the much faster Rosberg at the end of the race.
Was watching the race with the missus and we both quite amused when Rosberg spun out - couldn't help but feel that it was a bit schadenfreude.

I have high hopes for Max - along with Ricciardo - I believe these two are set for great things at RBR.

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giantfan10 wrote:"It's unlikely he would have passed though, as even at Canada, half a second a lap is not really enough to pass."
I beg to differ ... its not that difficult to pass in Canada.
Hence the assertion "even at Canada".

There were several points in the race today where people were a second a lap faster, but still struggled to pass.

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Wow, it wasnt as spectacular as othe races but it was interesting nevertheless.

Vettel had a brilliant start and he drove fantastically. It is difficult to judge the strategy because they expected that Hamilton was going to do a two stop strategy but it didnt work for them. The weird thing was to do the same stategy for both cars, they shouldnt have done something different for Kimi.

Hamilton made a masterful driving. It was amazing to see how the took care about his tyres. About the start... I see nothing punishable in his manouvre. BUT this is not something you should do with a teammate, but its not the first time and I am sure he will do it again.

The question is...what would have happened if Nico would have done the same? a total sh*tstorm and 20 pages more for this thread.

It was a weird race for Ricciardo with a mediocre performance. Anyway he should start thinking about going to another team. Those team orders dont work for Max who ignored the order to let pass Ricciardo....

Great race for Sainz after his mistake on qualy....

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Jolle wrote:It looked like VES destroyed ROS' tires in two laps time, very very nice driving!

Looks like HAM's got the (almost usual) upper hand on ROS again. Like he looses confidence whenever HAM is around.

Errr... no. Hamilton had (yet another) bad start and Vettel was ahead of him. Nico had a better start but not enough space to overtake him. Then, Lewis showed him how to cut a corner, even if he didnt want to do it.

With a longer straight Nico would have been ahead. That would have been a totally different race.

Its clear though, that Lewis is stronger than Nico on those situations. Nico must be happy with Lewis, especially after having let pass him in Monaco...

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Vasconia wrote:
Jolle wrote:It looked like VES destroyed ROS' tires in two laps time, very very nice driving!

Looks like HAM's got the (almost usual) upper hand on ROS again. Like he looses confidence whenever HAM is around.

Errr... no. Hamilton had (yet another) bad start and Vettel was ahead of him. Nico had a better start but not enough space to overtake him. Then, Lewis showed him how to cut a corner, even if he didnt want to do it.

With a longer straight Nico would have been ahead. That would have been a totally different race.

Its clear though, that Lewis is stronger than Nico on those situations. Nico must be happy with Lewis, especially after having let pass him in Monaco...
Thans the whole point, "that other race" doesn't happen too often. Normally, when Hamilton is in front of Rosberg, it's race done for Nico, while if Rosberg is in front of Hamilton, we've got a race on our hands.

And it's not the manouvre at turn one, that's more the cause. The trying to outbrake Verstappen in the closing stages was more telling. On newer tires, come on! And "I was low on fuel"? He's the first driver who uses fuel to brake.

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Jolle wrote: Thans the whole point, "that other race" doesn't happen too often. Normally, when Hamilton is in front of Rosberg, it's race done for Nico, while if Rosberg is in front of Hamilton, we've got a race on our hands.

And it's not the manouvre at turn one, that's more the cause. The trying to outbrake Verstappen in the closing stages was more telling. On newer tires, come on! And "I was low on fuel"? He's the first driver who uses fuel to brake.
You´re right. If Nico is ahead, there is race. If Lewis is first I dont see Nico overtaking him. Anyway, Nico has showed a greater confidence this season because he knows he is better than Lewis in the start of the race. So he knows he can overtake him even if he doesnt achieve the pole. Sadly for him the short straight wasnt enough in Canada. In my opinion he should have been more conservative when he realized that he was not ahead of Lewis. But I guess he tought that this was his only chance to win the race.

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Vasconia wrote:
Jolle wrote: Thans the whole point, "that other race" doesn't happen too often. Normally, when Hamilton is in front of Rosberg, it's race done for Nico, while if Rosberg is in front of Hamilton, we've got a race on our hands.

And it's not the manouvre at turn one, that's more the cause. The trying to outbrake Verstappen in the closing stages was more telling. On newer tires, come on! And "I was low on fuel"? He's the first driver who uses fuel to brake.
You´re right. If Nico is ahead, there is race. If Lewis is first I dont see Nico overtaking him. Anyway, Nico has showed a greater confidence this season because he knows he is better than Lewis in the start of the race. So he knows he can overtake him even if he doesnt achieve the pole. Sadly for him the short straight wasnt enough in Canada. In my opinion he should have been more conservative when he realized that he was not ahead of Lewis. But I guess he tought that this was his only chance to win the race.
True and that's Rosberg and Hamilton's problem as team mates. Everytime they go wheel to wheel Rosberg's reaction is one of 'I have to be in front or I'm toast'. Look at yesterday he tried to shove it up the inside because he knew if he didn't pull it off it was game over, in the same way as in Barcelona he knew that if Hamilton had sailed past him when he was in the wrong mode it was game over.

Hamilton was just as harsh on Rosberg yesterday as Rosberg was on Hamilton in Spain. That is just the effect, the cause is Rosberg's desperation to have to be in the lead at the start of race.

Also did anyone else hear Ted Kravitz say that the Germain side of the garage was 'hoping mad' over Hamilton's manoeuvre?

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About the start... in the reply one can see that Hamilton's reaction was spot on, but then Nico got better drive off after they got going. Interesting. Maybe Lewis was a bit overly cautious not to get too much wheelspin? Or did he in fact have a little wheelspin that caused him to lose that drive?

Eitherway, starts remain a bit of a concern for Hamilton, which is surprising after he had aced them last year and the year before compared to Nico, especially when he was starting from 2nd.

Vettels start was on another level though. Not unlike what Alonso pulled off a few times while at Ferrari...
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If your on the outside going around a corner 3 wide your normally going to end up in the ---.

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Carlos Sainz, P20 to P9. What a race. Enormous. =D>

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Restomaniac wrote:True and that's Rosberg and Hamilton's problem as team mates. Everytime they go wheel to wheel Rosberg's reaction is one of 'I have to be in front or I'm toast'. Look at yesterday he tried to shove it up the inside because he knew if he didn't pull it off it was game over, in the same way as in Barcelona he knew that if Hamilton had sailed past him when he was in the wrong mode it was game over.

Hamilton was just as harsh on Rosberg yesterday as Rosberg was on Hamilton in Spain. That is just the effect, the cause is Rosberg's desperation to have to be in the lead at the start of race.

Also did anyone else hear Ted Kravitz say that the Germain side of the garage was 'hoping mad' over Hamilton's manoeuvre?
Well, the biggest problem is that Lewis dont respect Nico as a driver, especially when they have to fight each other wheel to wheel. To be fair Lewis has been harsh with Nico many more times than the German. The difference is that the British manages those situations better.

It reminds me the Hill-Schumacher battles. Michael did things to Daimond that he never do to Mika, a driver he respected much more. Battles were tough but clean. Hamilton wouldnt do the same move to Alonso and Vettel, I am quite sure.

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Logie wrote:If your on the outside going around a corner 3 wide your normally going to end up in the ---.
Also right. Lewis was too harsh but Nico should have been more cautious.

I have seen what he has said about the first lap and he mentioned that Lewis was very hard but he defines it as a normal battle. He states that he shoudl have done a better start to overtake clearly Lewis.

About the last laps he said they were hard because of the lack of fuel and problems with temperatures.