Spanish GP 2012 - Barcelona

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zirpas
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just a shame... for mcca twice but for the fia ??? get him ripped off for that lap,but this???
i mean he´s not guilty at all,
P6 or P11 its a right punishment but DQ... it´s just a bad joke ¡¡¡

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Guisson
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Forecast says there will be a risk of 20% of rain
Temperature : 23-22°
Cloud Cover : 40%
Are we going to see a 2nd "China " Episode ?
The task is,not so much to see what no one has yet seenbut to think what nobody has yet thought, about that which everybody sees. Erwin Schrödinger

zyphro
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First time was a slap on the wrist (no rule).

Second time deserved a harsh treatment.

FIA taking no prisoners this weekend.
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zyphro
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RB_[Gnx] wrote:Forecast says there will be a risk of 20% of rain
Temperature : 23-22°
Cloud Cover : 40%
Are we going to see a 2nd "China " Episode ?
I'm not sure how reliable the forecast is in Montmelo. I remember over the years people predicted rain; didn't come.

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SeijaKessen
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Someone could correct me, but I don't recall McLaren having the problems they have had in recent years back when Ayrton Senna was driving for them.

Is this a training issue that they make all of these mistakes...or...?

Xtian999
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Finally get to see Vettel do more passing.

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Lurk
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zyphro wrote:
RB_[Gnx] wrote:Forecast says there will be a risk of 20% of rain
Temperature : 23-22°
Cloud Cover : 40%
Are we going to see a 2nd "China " Episode ?
I'm not sure how reliable the forecast is in Montmelo. I remember over the years people predicted rain; didn't come.
Montmelo has a microclimat. Better listen to local people than meteorologists there. They apparently are far more accurate.

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Chuckjr
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motobaleno wrote:
Goran2812 wrote: Me not!
it was immensely boring with respect to now...
wow each single race week end now is so full of drama and tactic moves!
sitting in the pit and waiting for the clock to run is estremely exciting if you put it in the right perspective of all the possible strategies.
a much richer variety with respect to past!
You have to go back to the seventies to find races where tactics were so important and infact in those days you had many different race winners during tha championships.
and you know what? also in those days you had tyre degradation as one of the key feature
+1 exactly how I feel about it.

And the penalty was absolutely correct. It's not the FIA's fault Macca is a complete sham when it comes to organizational competence. Ham signed on the team, so he is part of the team. You cannot separate them. Win as a team, lose as a team, f up as a team. Don't like it? Sign with another team. Just like Alonso at Ferrari--suck it up when the team is jacked and do your best with how the team behaves. Nobody is forcing Ham to stay at Macca. If I were him I'd be looking elsewhere. Time and experience has shown Macca is a poorly regulated network and has proven they are incompetent. Stay with them, then accept the fact they are going to completely cock up many situations every year.
Watching F1 since 1986.

foxmulder_ms
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No one here claims Mclaren was innocent!

Problem is the fairness.

People who thinks penalty was right, what's your thoughts on last race winner Vettel's stopping right after the finish line???

Please...




just as side note, I am rooting for Raikonnen this year.

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PlatinumZealot
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I think stopping after the race is much different from stopping after qualifying in that after the race, the finish is the finish!
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Teechnical
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Predictions for the race?
"We have a new toy" - Fernando Alonso.

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raymondu999
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Knowing 2012, it will be predictably unpredictable
失败者找理由,成功者找方法

Dann
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Despite the severity of the penalty for Lewis, Macca deserved some kind of punishment. It's up to their management/pitlane crew not to create situation that can cause FIA to penalise their drivers.
Too bad really, good car, poor race-craft.

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djos
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RobertPthe3rd wrote:The penalty was harsh. It wasn't Lewis's fault. The teams obviously. I mean you can even be a Mclaren hater and think it is harsh. I realize they are repeat offenders but lewis clearly had p1 in the bag. On that note congrats to Williams. I started watching f1 in 1997 or 1998 the first year my cable company had speed in the states and its great to see Maldonado (williams), who catches crazy flack for being a "pay" sponsored driver put it on pole. This season although totally dictated by tires has been extremely suspenseful. Artificial yes, Exciting, yes!
The rule was brought in precisely because Maclaren pulled this stunt before.
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Ray
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Don't the teams have to qualify on the fuel load they are going to start the race with? Or is that just the tires?