F1 Quiz Chain

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timbo wrote: Probably Graham Hill and his Embassy Hill.
I guess we would have to position Hill equal with Prost. Although he raced his team products he never won a race. Open to the day is a Champ who retired to own a team that won the constructors championship by another driver. I don't think that ever existed. Perhaps Schu can buy out Ross Brawn's useless partner when he retires and run Vettel for champ? :wink: 8)
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Whose turn is it?
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CMSMJ1 wrote:Whose turn is it?
Over to RDJEHV
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sorry all, I've gen gone all day yesterday. nt a lot of time now either so I'll make my question simple:

tell me more about this crash:

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It was a private Ferrari run by the Clienti team that had a good snapping session at Laguna Seca.

The driver was uninjured apart from being very scared.

The driver has an eastern eurpoean surname (off the top of my head) but without looking it up I cannot give much more info.

Apaprt form I think it is an F1-2000 model
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This is a Ferrari F399 bought by an importer and seller of Ferrari cars.

He had the tube lengthened in order to fit his giant corpus inside, however, it didn't go that well as the tube broke coming into a turn, and sent him spinning into a turn.

One picture shows his legs dangling outside, while he ponders how to say "Doh!"
Ferrari reportedly took the car back...

(edit: and he was Dutch!)
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It was an f399, owned and driver by Frits Kroymans. A dutch cardealer.
CMSMJ1 was first.

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It was dutch Ferrari distributer Kroymans at Laguna Seca in California. The nose tip went into a tyre stack and the shear forces broke off the tub.

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RDJEHV wrote:It was an f399, owned and driver by Frits Kroymans. A dutch cardealer.
CMSMJ1 was first.

Well.. I might have been first but apart from the recognising the picture, I failed on the person and the car.

I'll defer my turn and donate to woohoo - a better and more complete answer.

I trust this is OK with you RDJEHV?
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"shear forces", right :roll: That's why mirrors and bargeboards stayed intact. Supergluing car Schuey crashed in Silverstone was bad idea, but they never admitted it.

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everything is fine by me! There is a rumour they elongated the car to accommodate for the bigger driver. This however was denied by the driver himself. It sure looks like the same place schumachers ferrari chassis broke:
http://www.f1rogues.com/content/investi ... math_4.jpg

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We have already dealt with the case before and the comment by Ross Brawn at that time was confirmation that it was the same type of chassis as the one that crashed in Silverstone 1999. The rumor that it was modified was created by a spectator who noticed that Kroymans was rather tall and heavy for an F1 car.
manchild wrote:"shear forces", right :roll: That's why mirrors and bargeboards stayed intact. Supergluing car Schuey crashed in Silverstone was bad idea, but they never admitted it.
It was indeed shear forces. I can search for the video to proove it. Kroymans lost it in a turn and stuck the back and later the nose into a tyre wall. The car still had a bit of motion energy in the back end and was held at the front by the tyre stack. This is why it broke off clean at the vertical split. I believe Ferrari have changed their way of splitting the tub after that accident. Btw, it wasn't the Silverstone chassis 192. The Kroymans crash was in chassis 193.
hoi, dit was niet de wagen van silverstone, dat was chassisnr 192,
de auto die kroymans heeft is het chassisnr 193, waar schumacher mee won op san marino
Anonymous | 08.22.04 - 12:17 pm |
Ross Brawn wrote:We have got the car back at the factory and we are looking at it. Although it’s the same model as the one Michael had his accident in [at Silverstone in 1999], it’s a very different sort of accident. In Michael’s he had a front impact and the wheel came back into the cockpit and that’s what broke his leg. With this one – as far as I understand – the car went backwards into a barrier and the wheel became stuck in the barrier as the car spun around it, putting a tensile load on the car.”
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as we are awaiting a new question, I'll post an unofficial one here: what is this:

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http://lotusracing.my/tl_files/gallery/ ... 20tool.JPG

supposed to be a preview of the new lotus but what part is it?

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Looks like the mold for the rear of the tub from above. Seen from the edge of the head rest towards the engine. Above would be the air box. Below would be the fuel tank.
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Thank you :)

Question the Tyrrell 018 introduced an a tiny and obscure development, which was banned on the grounds of movable aero surfaces.

What was the development ?
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