Red Bull RB6

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marcush.
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you have to pass the ride height test with driver on board ,don´t you?

autogyro
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There is obviously something fairly complicated going on around the area of the hole and the exhaust outlet.
Bringing the exhaust outlet down could well be to allow room for a ride height adjuster of some sort.

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marcush. wrote:you have to pass the ride height test with driver on board ,don´t you?
Yes... kind of. The ride height test is nothing but wear on a wooden plank in the bottom of the car. As long as no more than 10mm of the plank have been consumed anywere after the race, you're legal. Well, IIRC it was 10mm, but I might be wrong.
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It's likely imo that RB have some sort of passive mechanical automatic ride height adjustment that operates on load - it probably has the ability to compensate for fuel load and aero-df load and this is why the car rises back up when stationary as there is no countering aero-df load.

As this is likely to be a passive mechanical device it is not illegal as only active ride control is illegal.
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Someone mentioned that the car is scraping in the turns. I would like to know more about that. There was some video of Vettel's qualifying lap with some scraping sounds.
What is really happening there? Is it an old trick from last year that has continued to be used on this year's car?
Interesting little thing to look at. Hmmm why is the splitter scraping in the turns,and does it have to do with the front suspension geometry when the car car pitches during braking, or even body roll.
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Looking at the pitstop, other than wheel changes, there is a guy adjusting something over the roll hoop, and another adjusting the front wing.

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Poleman
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ringo wrote:Looking at the pitstop, other than wheel changes, there is a guy adjusting something over the roll hoop, and another adjusting the front wing.
I dont see something unusual there...Just a normal pitstop.I cant see anyone adjusting the front wing and the roll hoop guy is just stabilizing the car the moment its lifted so it wont tilt left or right...Correct me if im wrong :wink:

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forty-two wrote:I re-watched the "Red button forum" shown after the race on the BBC and they actually talked for a while about Sebastien's car having shed a piece of CF. They showed footage from the rearward facing camera and it appeared to come from the L/H side of the car. David Coulthard actually said that when he first saw it he thought it was a bit of rubber, but looking again it "looks like a bit of carbon".

Perhaps this could explain the apparently missing piece?
I love how some people, when presented with this factual information, gloss over it completely!

I also remember seeing that on BBC red button - there is in fact something flying off the LH side of the back of Vetell's car, and it seems pretty obvious that this hole that's pointed at by the yellow arrow is NOT as it should be.

So the body panels are cracking under load, carbon fibre is pinging off the car, the floor is nearly touching the rear wheels when the fuel tank is nearly empty, and during Bahrain, Vettel's car at least was very quick through the very bumpy second sector. I wonder what this all amounts to?
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ringo wrote:Looking at the pitstop, other than wheel changes, there is a guy adjusting something over the roll hoop, and another adjusting the front wing.
He's just stabilizing the car when it's on the jacks.
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autogyro
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Hangaku wrote:
forty-two wrote:I re-watched the "Red button forum" shown after the race on the BBC and they actually talked for a while about Sebastien's car having shed a piece of CF. They showed footage from the rearward facing camera and it appeared to come from the L/H side of the car. David Coulthard actually said that when he first saw it he thought it was a bit of rubber, but looking again it "looks like a bit of carbon".

Perhaps this could explain the apparently missing piece?
I love how some people, when presented with this factual information, gloss over it completely!

I also remember seeing that on BBC red button - there is in fact something flying off the LH side of the back of Vetell's car, and it seems pretty obvious that this hole that's pointed at by the yellow arrow is NOT as it should be.

So the body panels are cracking under load, carbon fibre is pinging off the car, the floor is nearly touching the rear wheels when the fuel tank is nearly empty, and during Bahrain, Vettel's car at least was very quick through the very bumpy second sector. I wonder what this all amounts to?
Are you going to tell us then?
Nobody is disregarding parts flying off the car.
The floor is nearly touching the rear tyre when it is in parc ferme, not when the fuel tank is nearly empty. In fact with a nearly empty fuel tank as the car went over the finish line there was a large gap between the floor and the tyre.

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timbo wrote:
autogyro wrote:
timbo wrote:Well, if ride hide is adjusted to be in the optimum range thru the race, that would mean LESS variation and LESS suspension movement, not more.
Not with you Timbo?

The RB6 was very low on the ground through out the race.
It only increased its ride height between going over the finish line and going into parc ferme, where the undertray was then scrapping stones and mud off the rear tyre because it became so close to it.
Well, I mean that the speculation that variable ride height is somehow connected to bigger hole for suspension members are not likely to be true IMO.

the operating range of the suspension arm has to accomodate two differnet angles.
a steeper angle when the car is running high on low fuel and then when it is dropped back to normal operating height.
the pic in parc ferme shows the car high as it would be on empty tanks. The pull rod will still require a larger aperture to provide full range of movement

draw it.

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Hangaku wrote:
ringo wrote:Looking at the pitstop, other than wheel changes, there is a guy adjusting something over the roll hoop, and another adjusting the front wing.
He's just stabilizing the car when it's on the jacks.
Yeah, i know this, how did i forget #-o that's what all the teams do. So pretty normal stop then.
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Webbers luck seems to really suck.
Well at least his car was not in that truck

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorspo ... -qkyh.html
Sorry boys back to the RB6 :wink:
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hahahah if he didnt have bad luck he'd have none at all !!! If i was the guy in the ute id be demanding some VIP pit passes in compensation for mental anguish :P

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Mysticf1 wrote:hahahah if he didnt have bad luck he'd have none at all !!! If i was the guy in the ute id be demanding some VIP pit passes in compensation for mental anguish :P
+1

ditto my thoughts :wink: