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[mwillems]

I don't think Sainz should start in P3. He lost that place fair and square. It will be BS if he starts on P3 again.

It's not BS, it's a well established rule and we've benefitted from it before. Stop running your mouth because you want to have a tantrum.

[mwillems]

I don't think Sainz should start in P3. He lost that place fair and square.

It's the rules though. If they don't get through a sector in a race start, the order from a lap before is what counts. It's exactly why Alonso got his podium back in Australia last year.

They do have the leeway to do what they want, it could be either way and Race control have not yet decided.

Did Sainz make it back under his own steam, will that make a difference?

[Darth-Piekus]

It's a pity though. Lando got him fair and square.

[FittingMechanics]

I don't think Sainz should start in P3. He lost that place fair and square.

It's the rules though. If they don't get through a sector in a race start, the order from a lap before is what counts. It's exactly why Alonso got his podium back in Australia last year.

But they ended that sector - so Sainz is P16.

Problem is that if there is no more pitstops - you need to overtake on track. That is going to be an issue. Having two cars behind Leclerc would have been ideal but not if there are no pitstops.

But the champions are made when things are hard. Let's overtake for the win!

[Slahinki]

It may be Sainz in P3 once again. They didn't do a lap.

That would be peak McLaren luck.

[Emag]

I don't think Sainz should start in P3. He lost that place fair and square.

It's the rules though. If they don't get through a sector in a race start, the order from a lap before is what counts. It's exactly why Alonso got his podium back in Australia last year.

They do have the leeway to do what they want, it could be either way and Race control have not yet decided.

To be honest, I am more icked out because this red flag took out the mandatory pitstops. There is nothing to play for whatsoever in terms of strategy. Impossible to overtake here as well so there's nothing to watch now. It will end pretty much the same order lap 1 will end.

[geogate]

looking at where the alpines had a coming together, i can only assume there hadnt been a red flag by then, and that be way into the second sector, so all not lost yet

[mwillems]

It's the rules though. If they don't get through a sector in a race start, the order from a lap before is what counts. It's exactly why Alonso got his podium back in Australia last year.

They do have the leeway to do what they want, it could be either way and Race control have not yet decided.

To be honest, I am more icked out because this red flag took out the mandatory pitstops. There is nothing to play for whatsoever in terms of strategy. Impossible to overtake here as well so there's nothing to watch now. It will end pretty much the same order lap 1 will end.

I agree. I only watched this race because we were so high up, I hate Monaco, an absolute waste of time after Saturday apart from watching some teams lose millions of dollars.

Would it make a difference to F1 if we didn't have it?

[propercare]

So now both hards to the end?

[Darth-Piekus]

If they finished the first sector before the red flag then Sainz should start in 16th. That is if the rules can say that. Also I don't think the Hards can last 77 laps.

[mwillems]

So now both hards to the end?

If they think they can make it then they will.

Would you risk starting of Softs, driving slow for a while, filling the battery an then attacking after 3 laps with DRS open? Might be worth a risk, but the "problem" is that we are in a genuine fight for the WCC, so probably we won't take this risk.

[Mcl_G10]

I don't think hard will last a race now even at monaco.
It's a massive gamble to go soft with Oscar. If he doesn't get ahead at the start he will be lucky to get p10

[FittingMechanics]

So now both hards to the end?

Probably.

Only reason to do anything otherwise is if you want to do some kind of super aggressive strategy, for example Norris on softs to go and attack Leclerc.

[geogate]

the hards will last well enough at monaco - only person that might go soft is sainz if he start p3, cos his sole job is to protect charles

[mwillems]

Sainz won't be doing that, he's fighting for a place next year and he's not owing anything to the team.

I'd be shocked if he plays wingman.