I can't remember anything from his races at Red Bull. 2005 he had a full season with 9 points scored against Coulthard's 24 points. At that time DC had lost his McLaren seat to Montoya. It is fair to assume that DC wasn't at the peak of his driving any more, but Klien could not match him.Pandamasque wrote: I'd love to see Klien back.
He was so blindingly fast that he put it into the kitty litter!Pandamasque wrote: Since Red Bull he was blindingly fast in an 908 HDi FAP, fast compared to Le Mans winners like McNish and Kristensen, ever heard of these?
[-X The team lost 3 minutes if I remember it right. Le Mans is all about consistently going fast without accidents and wrecking the car.
). McNish spinned under the safety car this year and lost the PLM win, that doesn't make him hopeless.oops ..on paper you are damn right but something tells me michael will not be like the girl we saw in the second ferrari in 2009 after massas crash...maybe i put it wrongly :a test drivers main ability is to drive the car with a constant effort all day long giving reliable feedback to the engineers .Adaptability from driver side is unwanted and contraproductive as you don´t want to evaluate the tuneability of the driver but optimise the machine.so the classic test driver is not the obvious choice for a seat in current F1 as there is no or almost no testing time available.You have those two Friday sessions to go thru the available options do your tyre scan and the different fuelloads and then you spit in the hands and bang in your lap.Pandamasque wrote:@ marcush., I can't understand how it is better to put another Jaime Aymnotthurteenyet into the car instead of someone who's been developing F1 cars for years. According to your logic Michael Schumacher is going to be dead last consistently.
@ WhiteBlue, that's a silly argument (quelle surprise
That's also misrepresenting the situation. McNish looped the car under torrential rain, and it wasn't exactly hard to be faster than the Audis this year if you were driving the Peugeot. Even the R15 couldn't touch the 908s. I'm not saying Klein isn't a good driver and worthy of another shot. My suspicion is that he was a clear number 2 to Coulthard at Red Bull, something Mark Webber wouldn't put up with. Honest rhetoric is all I'm asking for here.Pandamasque wrote: @ WhiteBlue, that's a silly argument (quelle surprise
We are not seriously comparing Klien with McNish in terms of Le Mans driving, are we? I think this whole driver comparing is a bit silly. Let the teams do the hiring. They do that anyway. If we compare drivers let us stick to objective aspects that can be quantified like fastest laps, earned points, beaten team mates or race victories. All drivers have their supporters and negative talk about them will always make someone angry. So a bit of careful wording can save a lot of hurt feelings.christopher.mahlon wrote:That's also misrepresenting the situation. McNish looped the car under torrential rain, and it wasn't exactly hard to be faster than the Audis this year if you were driving the Peugeot. Even the R15 couldn't touch the 908s. I'm not saying Klein isn't a good driver and worthy of another shot. My suspicion is that he was a clear number 2 to Coulthard at Red Bull, something Mark Webber wouldn't put up with. Honest rhetoric is all I'm asking for here.Pandamasque wrote: @ WhiteBlue, that's a silly argument (quelle surprise
Oh, and just in general on this board, fewer personal attacks. Go after the post, not the poster.
Klien did not race Pugs in 2009, IIRC. I was talking about 2008, PLM springs to mind.christopher.mahlon wrote:...it wasn't exactly hard to be faster than the Audis this year if you were driving the Peugeot.
NO! This article ran yesterdaySawtooth-spike wrote:Any ideas who's going to get the second renault seat?
Its gone very quite from what i can see.
I don't know why a Finnish "Fish Wrap" (not a knock on Finns, rather a generic colloquialism) would have the inside info in this regard!Yet another driver is being linked with the vacant race seat at Renault.
A multitude of names have been mentioned as candidates for the role alongside Robert Kubica, and the latest belongs to a 25-year-old from Russia.
Vitaly Petrov carries significant sponsorship backing, and has already been linked with the vacant cockpits at Campos and Sauber.
He has driven in the GP2 series since 2006, and last season finished second behind champion Nico Hulkenberg.
Finland's Turun Sanomat claims Renault will select the driver with "the most sponsorship money" to be Kubica's teammate, adding that Petrov is "by no means the only strong candidate".
