2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

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banibhusan
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I think Alonso will have a tough time in overtaking Kimi and Schumi. I somehow have a feeling that this race will turn out to be a Abu Dhabi 2010. Just one stop and not many chances of overtaking on the circuit.

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Autosport and on here say alonso is 8th but on the times his 9th?
What is he?

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adam2003 wrote:Autosport and on here say alonso is 8th but on the times his 9th?
What is he?
He is human.

However, he is starting 8th because he qualified 9th* :mrgreen:

*Romain Grosjean who qualified 4th starts 9th because of a gearbox penalty. This moves Alonso up from P9 to P8 at the grid.
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That must have been a mighty lap from Hamilton. Should have been a RB lockout imo.
It´s crucial Hamilton keeps his second place at the start and hopefully can start to mount an attack on the harder compound which he looked stronger then Vettel on.

Interesting that Hamilton was fastest in Sector 1, i thought that was pure Red Bull territory.

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25.8 - HAM
25.9 - WEB
25.9 - VET

S2

38.0 - VET
38.0 - HAM
38.3 - WEB

S3

31.5 - VET
31.7 - WEB
31.8 - HAM
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raymondu999 wrote:
adam2003 wrote:Autosport and on here say alonso is 8th but on the times his 9th?
What is he?
He is human.

However, he is starting 8th because he qualified 9th* :mrgreen:

*Romain Grosjean who qualified 4th starts 9th because of a gearbox penalty. This moves Alonso up from P9 to P8 at the grid.
fantastic. Come on Alonso!!!!!!!

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adam2003 wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:
adam2003 wrote:Autosport and on here say alonso is 8th but on the times his 9th?
What is he?
He is human.

However, he is starting 8th because he qualified 9th* :mrgreen:

*Romain Grosjean who qualified 4th starts 9th because of a gearbox penalty. This moves Alonso up from P9 to P8 at the grid.
fantastic. Come on Alonso!!!!!!!
Also the dirty side.

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Where Massa and Hamilton said has less grip than starting in the wet.
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GrizzleBoy wrote:
Hail22 wrote:Anyone else feel the Championship will be over as of the end of this GP? :|
The championship battle ended in Singapore. If you know what I mean.

What we've been watching ever since is basically 2011.
Sad bat true, as a F1 fan I would like to see a final battle in Brazil, but Alonso did a bad qualy yesterday and Sebastian is dominating the field since RB got this incredible update.

Anyway, I would like to see Hamilton overtaking Seb in the first corner, if this happens the race could be interesting.

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OK. If this happens, I will be immensly glad.

First corner- Hamilton takes out Vettel

Chequered flag- Kimi 1st Webber 2nd Alonso 3rd

Brazil- Vettel pole Alonso 2nd in qually

Oh, wait none of this will happen.
Seb will run away with the lead and Alonso will get damage at first corner.
And the season started so well... :cry:
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Jersey Tom wrote:
Lurk wrote:I thought blankets were limited at something like 70°C?
Are they? Is that by rule? Seems like it would be silly to have blankets that don't get to the temperature you want. I personally haven't bought or made any so I can't say that I know for sure. For some reason the number 100C sticks out in my memory.
No, no, it was just a thought. As strad didn't find it on the rules, I was surely mistaken.

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raymondu999 wrote:Where Massa and Hamilton said has less grip than starting in the wet.
According to Hamilton starting from the dirty side means you could lose as many as 4 places at the start.

Apparently Button is saying that lot of rubber has been laid out on the dirty side by doing all the practice starts on Saturday. He also said that the racing line does not have that much grip either.

Source: Autosport

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banibhusan wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Where Massa and Hamilton said has less grip than starting in the wet.
According to Hamilton starting from the dirty side means you could lose as many as 4 places at the start.
Ok now 4 places seems to be pushing, especially with such a short run to T1. Obviously the further back you are, the longer the bad start affects you for - and so you'd lose more. But I don't think Hamilton will be defending for P5 by T1.
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raymondu999 wrote:
banibhusan wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Where Massa and Hamilton said has less grip than starting in the wet.
According to Hamilton starting from the dirty side means you could lose as many as 4 places at the start.
Ok now 4 places seems to be pushing, especially with such a short run to T1. Obviously the further back you are, the longer the bad start affects you for - and so you'd lose more. But I don't think Hamilton will be defending for P5 by T1.
Both McLaren and Ferrari have asserted that they think that the left hand side is worth -2 rows. Of course, two of the people on the 2 rows behind are also suffering that same penalty, so according to them, you're talking a 2 place penalty. Add to this that Mark Webber can't start to save his life, and you might be looking at Hamilton just about sticking with Webber, and forming a rolling road block for everyone behind. I think he can probably get away with still being second into the first corner.

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banibhusan wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Where Massa and Hamilton said has less grip than starting in the wet.
According to Hamilton starting from the dirty side means you could lose as many as 4 places at the start.

Apparently Button is saying that lot of rubber has been laid out on the dirty side by doing all the practice starts on Saturday. He also said that the racing line does not have that much grip either.

Source: Autosport
4 places? the 4th, 6th, 8th are on the dirty side,too. This means 4 cars from the clean side will probably overtake him?
Webber (3), Schumacher (5), Hulkenberg (7) and Grosjean (9) would be the one who will overtake Hamilton.
His words are a bit exaggerated. Dont think he will be caught by people from the 5th row

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Yes. Agreed!! May be for Lewis and Kimi it may not affect that much. I was actually thinking from Alonso's point of view. Such bad start could ruin his race and any hope for the WDC.

@McMrocks: He didnt say he would be overtaken by 4 people. Basically his point was if you are starting on the dirty side then there are chances you lose up to 4 places. But that was his experience on Saturday. There may have been more rubber by now because of the practice starts. And as Ray pointed out, he is starting from 2nd. So it may not affect him that much since the run to T1 is quite short.