2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Sergej
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only 2 tenths and half is not that bad I guess, let's hope he can keep P3 tomorrow

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It's sad that Yuki was right when he said last year after being passed up for Lawson that who knows, maybe the vcarb is better than the RB.

Imagine what Max could do in it too.

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ispano6 wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 16:06
It's sad that Yuki was right when he said last year after being passed up for Lawson that who knows, maybe the vcarb is better than the RB.

Imagine what Max could do in it too.
If you look at first races the rb was qualifying within 0.2 tenth of max but over a race distance they were blown away.being quick over one lap could mean they are easy to get the tires upto temperature but that costly over the long run

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Sergej wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 16:05
only 2 tenths and half is not that bad I guess, let's hope he can keep P3 tomorrow
They definitely improved the car from FP3 to Q, gaining 1 second with just engine modes (Quali sim v/s actual Quali) isn't explainable.

Looking at the data, it's disappointingly predictable :
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Losses :
~0.15 in T1
~0.25 in T3
~0.12 in T11-T12.
If the car was not a walrus in these slow turns, and had cut the losses even by half, it would've been close to pole time. That's frustrating. Just three turns.
It's going to be a tyre life battle between Max and Russel, and whoever aces it, will be on the podium.

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Now that the new team principal helped Tsunoda to get completely identical car to Verstappen's, with the same upgrades, and Tsunoda is still 7 tenths behind, let's hope that everyone will accept Verstappen's exceptional talent from now.

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All good, no further action.

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pantherxxx wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 17:40
Now that the new team principal helped Tsunoda to get completely identical car to Verstappen's, with the same upgrades, and Tsunoda is still 7 tenths behind, let's hope that everyone will accept Verstappen's exceptional talent from now.
well, 7 tenths w.r.t Q3 time of Max, actually 5 tenths w.r.t Q2 time of Max.
Nevertheless, the 'gap to second driver' still lingers around the 0.5 to 0.6 mark. At some point, people have to accept the exceptional talent that Max is (or probably they will come up with excuses like 'oh what about the front flap setting difference between the two cars')

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pantherxxx wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 17:40
Now that the new team principal helped Tsunoda to get completely identical car to Verstappen's, with the same upgrades, and Tsunoda is still 7 tenths behind, let's hope that everyone will accept Verstappen's exceptional talent from now.
Completely identical cars don't be ridiculous .Yuki get second hand parts from Max car.the second car is being managed.the gap was five tenth not seven and all of it is in sector two which shows he is running low on downforce.redbull and vcarb brought Updates. In redbull case is around the floor and we all know who got the Updates.

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Bill wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:02
pantherxxx wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 17:40
Now that the new team principal helped Tsunoda to get completely identical car to Verstappen's, with the same upgrades, and Tsunoda is still 7 tenths behind, let's hope that everyone will accept Verstappen's exceptional talent from now.
Completely identical cars don't be ridiculous .Yuki get second hand parts from Max car.the second car is being managed.the gap was five tenth not seven and all of it is in sector two which shows he is running low on downforce.redbull and vcarb brought Updates. In redbull case is around the floor and we all know who got the Updates.
Both cars had the same top speed and the same parts. You might be able to pass your excuses and fairytales by someone who doesn't have a working television, but not on a technical forum. Yuki used two sets of new tires in Q1 and two sets of new tires Q2. Max used only 1 set of new tires in Q1 and only 1 set of new tires in Q2. Therefore, the gap has flattered Yuki. Had Max also used a new set of tires for the 2nd runs in Q1 and Q2, the gap would have been 8-9 tenths.
It doesn't turn.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:19
Bill wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:02
pantherxxx wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 17:40
Now that the new team principal helped Tsunoda to get completely identical car to Verstappen's, with the same upgrades, and Tsunoda is still 7 tenths behind, let's hope that everyone will accept Verstappen's exceptional talent from now.
Completely identical cars don't be ridiculous .Yuki get second hand parts from Max car.the second car is being managed.the gap was five tenth not seven and all of it is in sector two which shows he is running low on downforce.redbull and vcarb brought Updates. In redbull case is around the floor and we all know who got the Updates.
Both cars had the same top speed and the same parts. You might be able to pass your excuses and fairytales by someone who doesn't have a working television, but not on a technical forum. Yuki used two sets of new tires in Q1 and two sets of new tires Q2. Max used only 1 set of new tires in Q1 and only 1 set of new tires in Q2. Therefore, the gap has flattered Yuki. Had Max also used a new set of tires for the 2nd runs in Q1 and Q2, the gap would have been 8-9 tenths.
Yuki has already revealed. i don't need a TV to know the truth. Redbull have made it clear on many occasions that they have a number one and two positions in their team and the way they enforce that is with Updates. https://x.com/autosport/status/19509432 ... _68nQ&s=19
They are no magic drivers in f1 Alonso without Flavio arm around him has exactly the same number of points as Stroll a guy that everyone thinks he is the worst,he didn't blow Lewis a rookie when they were together.schumacher didn't blow Rosberg ones he lost his privileges. If Max is so great why is Toto willing to let go of Russell while keep kimi .why can't he keep the driver who scored the most points. The answer is simply Russell won't play the number two role.

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Bill wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 19:33
AR3-GP wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:19
Bill wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:02


Completely identical cars don't be ridiculous .Yuki get second hand parts from Max car.the second car is being managed.the gap was five tenth not seven and all of it is in sector two which shows he is running low on downforce.redbull and vcarb brought Updates. In redbull case is around the floor and we all know who got the Updates.
Both cars had the same top speed and the same parts. You might be able to pass your excuses and fairytales by someone who doesn't have a working television, but not on a technical forum. Yuki used two sets of new tires in Q1 and two sets of new tires Q2. Max used only 1 set of new tires in Q1 and only 1 set of new tires in Q2. Therefore, the gap has flattered Yuki. Had Max also used a new set of tires for the 2nd runs in Q1 and Q2, the gap would have been 8-9 tenths.
Yuki has already revealed. i don't need a TV to know the truth. Redbull have made it clear on many occasions that they have a number one and two positions in their team and the way they enforce that is with Updates. https://x.com/autosport/status/19509432 ... _68nQ&s=19
They are no magic drivers in f1 Alonso without Flavio arm around him has exactly the same number of points as Stroll a guy that everyone thinks he is the worst,he didn't blow Lewis a rookie when they were together.schumacher didn't blow Rosberg ones he lost his privileges. If Max is so great why is Toto willing to let go of Russell while keep kimi .why can't he keep the driver who scored the most points. The answer is simply Russell won't play the number two role.
Yuki lost time in T10 and the chicane vs Verstappen. The car sucks, yes. But, Max performed better in the long corner and chicane transition.

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Bill wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 19:33
They are no magic drivers in f1
Very occasionally, yes, there are.

I'm not a Max fan at all, but I'd be lying if I didn't still find massive appreciation in watching such a talent push beyond the expectations of a normal competitor, even at this high level. This isn't limited to F1 for me, either. I love sports and seeing absolute elite/alien level competitors at their best is something to behold and helps make things worth watching. If such special/magical talents didn't exist, then sports would a lot less exciting.

And objectively, I really think Max might be the best driver F1 has ever seen. He's a Schumacher-level talent at the very least.

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Max starts on soft, big risk for potentially no gain, let's see.

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why the fuc* did they put the medium ?