2025 McLaren F1 Team

[FittingMechanics]

Scandal is what mr. Horner brought to Red Bull.

This is inter team racing dynamics. Oscar was given opportunity to pit first to protect against Leclerc. Lando lost the spot because of it. Just like in Hungary, the driver that was given the advantage was asked to give it back. If they didn't, the drivers would hurt each other next time around because the car ahead would not allow the other driver to pit first, thus opening them up to undercuts from other teams.

Imagine we are running P1-P2 with P3 close behind, P3 goes to undercut and then our lead driver doesn't allow P2 to pit first to protect himself from P3, but he pits instead. So our P2 guy has to wait two laps until he can pit to protect against P3. What they did here is allow P2 to pit first, with the understanding that the undercut gain is not allowed to change positions between them. Completely logical view for the team. Oscar gained from it in Hungary 2024, Norris gained here (with the difference that Norris was much faster in 2024).

[balex]

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[geogate]

They were right in Hungary, and they were right here.

[Venturiation]

they are doing everything to help lando and stop piastri what a scandal

[FittingMechanics]

I love these fans from other teams not understanding their teams usually do these type of calls every time. But for them, the call is not defend the team and maximize the result of both drivers, the call is pit the first driver with priority.

Max would never pit after his teammate because that would undermine his position.

[Watto]

I feel warmer to Oscar than Lando, but I'm fine with the swap. There is a strong chance Oscar was ahead because he pitted first.

I think if Lando chose to extend his stop or what ever and Oscar chose to stop, and there was a slow stop I'd day Lando had to wear it but when Lando saw it coming and said he wanted to stop and the team over ruled him for the Charles undercut (and a rough look at the replay and closing gaps it was probably getting tight leaving Oscar out especially if Oscar copped that slow stop it probably comes out behind Charles. So I think the right call...even if I preferred Oscar to win.

[RedNEO]

Complete scandal and even Max called it straight away.

Brundle needs to stop being so biased towards the Brit too.

Scandal.. hahaha

I'll presume English is not your primary language. But it's literally the definition of a scandal what they have done to Oscar.

'Scandal - an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.'

Didn’t Hungary set a precedent that this kind of thing is how McLaren goes racing and not favouring anyone?

The gap between Oscar and Charles seemed big, but if he had been the one with the four second delay on the stop he likely would have finished fourth.

[Slahinki]

Scandal.. hahaha

I'll presume English is not your primary language. But it's literally the definition of a scandal what they have done to Oscar.

'Scandal - an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.'

If anyone thinks, thar was morally or legally wrong, I question their thinking. If anyone is outraged, I question their thinking.

I hope no one is that stupid.

Apparently some are, and they need to get a grip, honestly. Nothing scandalous about this in the slightest, lmao.

[FNTC]

The team promised lando on the radio that Oscar would not undercut him if lando pitted last. The issue is that lando lost 3 sec in the pit and came out 1.5 behind. So he would be ahead with normal stop, so the undercut was not the reason he lost it.

[balex]

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[Ben1980]

If ( always if) Oscar does another lap, then gets tge 4.9second stop. Hes pretty damn close to Leclerc.

Charles was 3.7 behind at one point. After the stops.

[Ben1980]

The team promised lando on the radio that Oscar would not undercut him if lando pitted last. The issue is that lando lost 3 sec in the pit and came out 1.5 behind. So he would be ahead with normal stop, so the undercut was not the reason he lost it.

But if he stopped first then mone of it happens. The team him to stop second, which opened up the risks.

[balex]

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[mwillems]

I feel warmer to Oscar than Lando, but I'm fine with the swap. There is a strong chance Oscar was ahead because he pitted first.

I think if Lando chose to extend his stop or what ever and Oscar chose to stop, and there was a slow stop I'd day Lando had to wear it but when Lando saw it coming and said he wanted to stop and the team over ruled him for the Charles undercut (and a rough look at the replay and closing gaps it was probably getting tight leaving Oscar out especially if Oscar copped that slow stop it probably comes out behind Charles. So I think the right call...even if I preferred Oscar to win.

Agreed. But to be quite honest there's little point explaining it.

Nothing happened today that is an issue or that needs any great explanation. The team were always in control.

The only drama is the drama folks in here and social media choose to make. And that's fine, they enjoy it to one degree or another. Im unconcerned and remain heartily bored after that race.

Had Oscar pitted second and Lando still have a slow stop then Oscar might have come out next to each other.

[geogate]

its not even about the math. They got consent from the lead driver to make a concession to help the other driver behind keep his place. It's about maintaining some level of co-operation between competing drivers