USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

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Crystal-clear analysis, Scot.
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Predictions about what will happen when USF1 starts to compete and americans, as usual, take over F1 (NO, I don't mention Danica):

- Cars will have a 146 cu.in. engine.
- FIA headquarters will move to Daytona Beach.
- Bill France will buy the series from Bernie and FIA president will be one of his cousins from Alabama.
- FIA will change it's name to FIAANA (Federation Internationale du American Automobiles du North America)
- Spa will have a capacity of 170.000 seats and will be converted into an oval. Kimi learns to draft and wins Spa 2010.
- Every race will end in a crash.
- Polish victory laps will become common.
- Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops.
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Sounds like a reasonable assumption Ciro, but you forgot the compulsory BBQ-party with frozen Bud at every race?
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Ciro Pabón wrote:Predictions about what will happen when USF1 starts to compete and americans, as usual, take over F1 (NO, I don't mention Danica):

- Cars will have a 146 cu.in. engine.
- FIA headquarters will move to Daytona Beach.
- Bill France will buy the series from Bernie and FIA president will be one of his cousins from Alabama.
- FIA will change it's name to FIAANA (Federation Internationale du American Automobiles du North America)
- Spa will have a capacity of 170.000 seats and will be converted into an oval. Kimi learns to draft and wins Spa 2010.
- Every race will end in a crash.
- Polish victory laps will become common.
- Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops.
Haha!!! :lol:
Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops
You know is that legal? I sometimes wondered if that would happen? We know some tracks are more demanding on the fronts than the rears and some tracks more demanding on the rears than the fronts.

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Ciro Pabón wrote:Predictions about what will happen when USF1 starts to compete and americans, as usual, take over F1 (NO, I don't mention Danica):

- Cars will have a 146 cu.in. engine.
- FIA headquarters will move to Daytona Beach.
- Bill France will buy the series from Bernie and FIA president will be one of his cousins from Alabama.
- FIA will change it's name to FIAANA (Federation Internationale du American Automobiles du North America)
- Spa will have a capacity of 170.000 seats and will be converted into an oval. Kimi learns to draft and wins Spa 2010.
- Every race will end in a crash.
- Polish victory laps will become common.
- Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops.
Let's not forget that the cars will have more stickers on them.

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PNSD wrote:
Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops
You know is that legal? I sometimes wondered if that would happen? We know some tracks are more demanding on the fronts than the rears and some tracks more demanding on the rears than the fronts.
That is legal as long as they are the same type (softs, hards and so on). I remember only recently that a car, which can't recall right now, changed only the rears for a race since the fronts were ok.

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jddh1 wrote: Let's not forget that the cars will have more stickers on them.
Red Bull already have a bunch of sponsors on standby...

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jddh1 wrote:
PNSD wrote:
Some cars will change only two wheels during pit stops
You know is that legal? I sometimes wondered if that would happen? We know some tracks are more demanding on the fronts than the rears and some tracks more demanding on the rears than the fronts.
That is legal as long as they are the same type (softs, hards and so on). I remember only recently that a car, which can't recall right now, changed only the rears for a race since the fronts were ok.
Yeah, it was one of the wet races last year wasn't it? Honestly I don't see the point if you're allowed to have any number of mechanics "over the wall".
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jon-mullen wrote:
jddh1 wrote:
PNSD wrote:You know is that legal? I sometimes wondered if that would happen? We know some tracks are more demanding on the fronts than the rears and some tracks more demanding on the rears than the fronts.
That is legal as long as they are the same type (softs, hards and so on). I remember only recently that a car, which can't recall right now, changed only the rears for a race since the fronts were ok.
Yeah, it was one of the wet races last year wasn't it? Honestly I don't see the point if you're allowed to have any number of mechanics "over the wall".
Yes it was a wet race. And I agree. If you have so many dudes working on the car might as well change all 4 tires.

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Lots of people used to do that when Michelin was in F1. I remember Fisico in Spa 2001 with Benetton, he didn't change front wheels for the whole race. And came 3rd.
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With the no refueling in 2010, 2 tyre changes may just happen more often. As of now, the fuel takes longer than the tyre change... That will not be the case next year.

I have to say that if USF1 happens to pick up all of the disgruntled Junior F1 engineers that left their jobs because they weren't allowed to participate in the design of upgrades (the test-only guys that know more than anyone else), and USF1 lets them run their own space, you could see the best of each car on the USF1 challenger next year.

I dunno, I recall getting hammered by saying that I could do a good job with young engineers, but the more that I learn about how the inside of F1 realy works, I believe in what I said before even more.

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Conceptual wrote:I have to say that if USF1 happens to pick up all of the disgruntled Junior F1 engineers that left their jobs because they weren't allowed to participate in the design of upgrades (the test-only guys that know more than anyone else), and USF1 lets them run their own space, you could see the best of each car on the USF1 challenger next year.
the ones which lost their jobs just were not good enough.

with all respect to test guys (I worked with quite a few, not in F1 for clarity, and I respect them as they are important part of the development team) they are not the ones who know more than anybody else. the fact that you can run the tests does not mean you know how to create successful design.

usually its design engineer (the one who signs the drawings) job to define tests requirements, and to interpret the results.

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Conceptual wrote:I dunno, I recall getting hammered by saying that I could do a good job with young engineers, but the more that I learn about how the inside of F1 realy works, I believe in what I said before even more.
I think that carries over to a lot of industries, don't you? Getting young people before they've developed bad habits or become stuck in one rote way of thinking. If they're at any disadvantage it's because the regs favor refinement over innovation, which would seem to favor people that have been around a while.
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MrE has doubts about Windsor.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 3006.shtml

Actually, I don't think he needed a crystal-ball for that statement.
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xpensive wrote:MrE has doubts about Windsor.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 3006.shtml

Actually, I don't think he needed a crystal-ball for that statement.
Can I also point out that he said "that's the rumour" several times. Taking it from his words you can't really say as to what he believes.
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