2016 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, Thu 26 – Sun 29 May

[i70q7m7ghw]

Team radio ban has done nothing for the racing and in fact has been a step back. Taking away from some of the viewing. I know not a total ban

I agree, we get a fraction of the team radio we used to get, such a shame.



Also, Danny boy needs to get over it, 2nd at Monaco and pushing the Merc had for the whole race is really not something to be sad about. With the upgraded Renault engine Red Bull could become serious challengers for the title, if not this year then certainly next year. While he was 2nd, where was his superstar team mate?

[ringo]

He would take it less seriously if Max didn't win in Barcelona. He is just itching to get another win because Max beat him to it.
So his frustrations are understandable.

Strong race by Perez and Hamilton, as well as Alonso.

Nico showed again that the mercedes is not a good car when it's behind. He also showed that he isn't very good when it comes to feel and gaggle fights. haha.

Even though redbull gifted lewis the win, i must say his defensive driving is just as strong as his attacking driving. He did well to place the car in the right spots coming out of the tunnel. I was almost sure tha Honey Badger overtake was inevitable based on Ric very strong pace on the SS. Hamilton's tyre management was also well done, going fast ever so often and then cooling off.

If it's not obviously already, Ric is a very very fast driver. He is one of those monstrous ones like Alonso, he is not one to sit back and accept staying in the same position, he will attack repeatedly.

Max had no excuse this round. He is starting to show his lack of experience. You could see that his nerves got the best of him the whole weekend. the molly coddling is over and he has a fast as hell teammate, and very high expectations to deliver results at the front.

Perez to Ferrari next year!!!

[siskue2005]

Team radio ban has done nothing for the racing and in fact has been a step back. Taking away from some of the viewing. I know not a total ban

so true

[The_table]

He is frustrated because he thinks this was his only chance to win this year (unless the mercs crash and the ferraris screw up).

[iotar__]

- "We cannot ask either driver to give up positions or jeopardise their own championship chances for the benefit of the team." Toto Wolff and Mercedes are liars.
- Ricciardo - new Webber of Red Bull,
- Brilliant podium from Perez, much better than Verstappen's win but it won't get 10% of attention.

- Ferrari losing to Force India, Verstappen crashes, Rosberg has the engine mode from Barcelona and they can't get a podium. Selling cars is all that counts in F1.

- Everyone but Raikkonen got a penalty. Kvyat's was particularly funny because in '14 Raikkonen got a reprimand for identical move and then more: reversing into Magnussen's wing. Whiting should be in jail for fraud and Ferrari excluded from races for putting the sport into disrepute or whatever it was called.

[ringo]

Iotar, i wont take your bait, but Merc policy is always to get the best results possible each race.
They did that, and getting "slow as molasses" Nico out of the way should have been done much earlier.

[anel2ka]

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[justmoi]

One thing I'm not quite getting even watching the race a second time, Lewis pitted being just ahead of Daniel. Daniel pitted soon after and lost an extra 13.5 seconds in the pits. Total pit time was in the high 35s. Lewis was on slicks but barely just got past Daniel as he was coming out. How/why?

Only thing I can think of is Lewis must have had some serious excursions on his first flying lap on slicks

[foxmulder_ms]

Oh booy! It was hilarious to see what red bull did and how Ricciardo responded I am sorry it was just funny to see a guy waiting for tires LOL.

Hamilton drove a very nice race. With the great strategy he deserved the win. Rosberg was too conservative and couldn't produce enough heat, I guess ???? It was a weak drive from him.

Vestappen was really good but then the accident..

Overall, not a bad race for Monaco. Generally its races are abysmal.

[FrukostScones]

Great race.
Better than last year for sure.
Max Verstappen showed with his overtakes that he can do it. Crash is just result of immature overzealousness.
McLaren showed they have the 5th best chassis behind FINDIA.
Vettel was great but hampered by track position. RAI was embarrassing. Bring in th e next guy at Ferrari ....
PER is a bank in Monaco. Also GUI seems to excel there.
HAM took the gamble and it payed, big time because RB --- up. Happens once in a while even to the best.
RIC seems to be so frustrated because he is on the back foot in contract negotiations( "Sorry Dan, we just wired Jos all the money we got for Max, so they is nothing left for a pay rise.")
ROS was embarrassing; unless there was a serious technical problem on his car, no excuse for this! . ALO was dead slow at times, yet ROS couldn't pull a move.
HAM handing his champagne to this problem child, sry no Thanks!

[The_table]

Max Verstappen showed with his overtakes that he can do it. Crash is just result of immature overzealousness.

How many people crashed this race? even vettel was nearly in the wall at the same place...

[FrukostScones]

One thing I'm not quite getting even watching the race a second time, Lewis pitted being just ahead of Daniel. Daniel pitted soon after and lost an extra 13.5 seconds in the pits. Total pit time was in the high 35s. Lewis was on slicks but barely just got past Daniel as he was coming out. How/why?

Only thing I can think of is Lewis must have had some serious excursions on his first flying lap on slicks

I think you have to compare the laptimes..
HAM s ourt lap was kind of slow with th US slicks and RIC set new personal best on his in lap on Inters...

[FrukostScones]

Max Verstappen showed with his overtakes that he can do it. Crash is just result of immature overzealousness.

How many people crashed this race? even vettel was nearly in the wall at the same place...

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[GPR-A duplicate2]

One thing I'm not quite getting even watching the race a second time, Lewis pitted being just ahead of Daniel. Daniel pitted soon after and lost an extra 13.5 seconds in the pits. Total pit time was in the high 35s. Lewis was on slicks but barely just got past Daniel as he was coming out. How/why?

Only thing I can think of is Lewis must have had some serious excursions on his first flying lap on slicks

I couldn't see any visual of that either, but next lap after pitting, Lewis' lap was a 1m41.829!!! He did 1m30.486 after that lap. Either he was stuck in bad traffic or had a moment somewhere to lose 11 seconds.

[Fulcrum]

Hamilton didn't make any mistakes, got a bit lucky with the Red Bull mistake, drove a great defensive race. Well done to him. Rosberg was clearly uncomfortable under the circumstances, be it car, conditions, or both.

He must be an absolute 'yes' man to have moved out of the way of Hamilton. I don't see Hamilton doing the same thing if the roles were reversed. That said, I don't think I've seen Hamilton driving as slowly as Rosberg drove today.

For those suggesting Ricciardo should mask his feelings a bit, what a load of complete hypocritical bullsh*t.

This is the most prestigious race of the year. Ricciardo dominated the weekend, got pole, led from lap 1, made no mistakes, was the fastest man on track for the majority of the race, finished second through no fault of his own.

Last race he got screwed out of a win by the strategy lottery; an incorrect decision made by the team. This week, a completely comical pitstop. It was so bad, he was actually revving his engine in an attempt to attract his pit crews attention! Farcical.

While the Red Bull is much improved, the Mercedes is still the dominant car. Vettel only won at Monaco once during his dominant period. You have to take your chances. Red Bull blew it, and Ricciardo knows it. He may never have another chance like this again.

Venting in public isn't constructive, but he is fully entitled to do it, particularly considering the sequence of events he has experienced. I wonder if Red Bull have become a bit operationally distracted since the Verstappen move?

Its not as if he is the first driver to have something to say about his team either. Most fast drivers have something to say when they feel hard done by. Think of your favourite, they've done it.