2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:35
CjC wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:24
Stella did play down lando’s long run pace #-o
But did not succeed. He said that with the colder weather it brought their car into a sweetspot. Just confirms they are significantly faster than Merc and Ferrari.
What do you reckon, is it gonna be at the start like Red Bull did last year, albeit this year instead of them, McLaren on top, then a close group of Ferrari Mercedes and this time Red Bull close behind?

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organic wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:42
Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:35
CjC wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:24
Stella did play down lando’s long run pace #-o
But did not succeed. He said that with the colder weather it brought their car into a sweetspot. Just confirms they are significantly faster than Merc and Ferrari.
Yesterday the temps were more like Vegas than typical Bahrain
Still, very encouraging given the MCL38's cold weather weakness last year

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organic wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:42
Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:35
CjC wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:24
Stella did play down lando’s long run pace #-o
But did not succeed. He said that with the colder weather it brought their car into a sweetspot. Just confirms they are significantly faster than Merc and Ferrari.
Yesterday the temps were more like Vegas than typical Bahrain
It just shows their inherent race pace if deg is less an issue with these low temperatures. Mclaren might suffer a bit on rear limited tracks (which it wasn't yesterday) but Stella didn't sound too worried there. Think they are clearly ahead.

How close RB is, is not yet clear.

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Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:52
organic wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:42
Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:35


But did not succeed. He said that with the colder weather it brought their car into a sweetspot. Just confirms they are significantly faster than Merc and Ferrari.
Yesterday the temps were more like Vegas than typical Bahrain
It just shows their inherent race pace if deg is less an issue with these low temperatures. Mclaren might suffer a bit on rear limited tracks (which it wasn't yesterday) but Stella didn't sound too worried there. Think they are clearly ahead.

How close RB is, is not yet clear.
Temperature does a lot more than just change the amount of degradation, most importantly shifts balance on a track like this rearwards

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This team aren't stupid enough to do another mini drs and be caught, are they? Surely?

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Cassius wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:35
CjC wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 14:24
Stella did play down lando’s long run pace #-o
But did not succeed. He said that with the colder weather it brought their car into a sweetspot. Just confirms they are significantly faster than Merc and Ferrari.
Cold is the sweet spot now, on harder tyres?

Hmmm.

Still, advantage can still be track specific. Look at the lap data, we only really excel at this point in slow corners, otherwise we are comparable to the red car.

This does suggest the front graining is gone in colder conditions though.

On another note, has anyone looked at our usage of the kerbs versus other cars? I'm curious about how this suspension is being utilised and how stiff the car is, or isn't.
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Oscar is on a race sim. He is on the 2nd stint now.

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slower than Lando yesterday but the track is slower too
PIA times compare well to RUS who just started his race sim (track now quicker than when PIA did his first stint)

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Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 16:22
slower than Lando yesterday but the track is slower too
PIA times compare well to RUS who just started his race sim (track now quicker than when PIA did his first stint)
Quite a bit slower actually. Also slower than Leclerc yesterday, but as you said, not comparable track conditions. Lets see how it will be in comparison to Russell all the way.
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Doing plenty of laps. Currently most of top teams.

I hope the team does couple of qualy sims at the end.

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Oscar's second stint is being significantly affected by Ocon ahead of him at the moment. Bear this in mind when analysing that (tyre age ~15-18 laps he's been close to him)

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organic wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 16:28
Oscar's second stint is being significantly affected by Ocon ahead of him at the moment. Bear this in mind when analysing that (tyre age ~15-18 laps he's been close to him)
Ocon using drs to defend as well … the ocon special
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I would love to see Oscar doing a qualifying lap just to throw us a treat.

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At least the first stint of Oscar looks quite a bit better than Russell’s both from a performance pov and a deg pov.
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Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 16:44
At least the first stint of Oscar looks quite a bit better than Russell’s both from a performance pov and a deg pov.
And it looks like last stint (on C2) is better. Track seems about 6-7 tenths slower than yesterday.