Malaysian GP 2011 - Sepang

[alelanza]

Hamilton vs Button race history graf

Head to Head

Amazing graphs, finally understood how Alonso ended up behind button, that's the worst pitstop ever!
On the other hand I thought Felipe overtook Button on track but that's not reflected here.

The tactics of the teams are puzzling me ....Some seam to be unable to harness their drivers and themselves from taking dumb decisions.

When tyre degradation is your concern ,wich clearly was the issue on sunday -AND you want to jump the very best- you have to gamble and outfox the rest.

As Mclaren I would have pushed to get into Q3 with minimum effort -eg one run on hards in Q1 and 1run on softs in Q2 and NO run in Q3 Netting p10.
Just look at Heidfeld and Petrov ..They almost took the lead coming from p6 and 8..
This way you have the choice of running brand new softs or brand new primes...both very attractive propositions...as the hard is 1 second slower but having 3 laps less on them they should be good enough to not be a drawback in the first stint ...as the degradation is lower and having new ones you got a head start with their speed...
Come on guys in F1.. give us some clever lateral thinking strategy!You could at least one time claim to have a car issue....right? I´m pretty sure Button could have won it that way.

If they make the China backstraight the DRS zone, then i think teams should literally save as much as they can for the race, it does seem like what you're saying wouldn't be crazy at all.
Interesting about the Renault starts, it reminded me so much of 05 and 06 where Alonso and even Fisi would make up so many places at the start. That was with TC of course...

[atanatizante]

Sorry to be late on this comment, but did anyone else notice that during Qualifying, Michael Schumacher's car was running without the R/H louvre immediately above the exhaust exit hole. In other words, the hole was there but the louvre plate was missing.

I don't know if it was left off on purpose, or gave up during qualifying, or indeed if it was back by the start of the race.

The world feed showed it clearly. I will try to dig out a still.

In qualifying they opted to run without it.
Maybe they were afraid not to have cooling issues ... so another 4-5 tenths per lap were lost ...

[Richard]

Race data PDFs are now posted on the race data thread ...

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9815&p=239921

[zeph]

Whoa, Schu fastest of the 3-stoppers. And Alonso loses 1-2 seconds per stop on Vettel? Ferrari needs to check what went wrong there.

[raymondu999]

McLaren really Off pace...

comparison on Hamilton and Button’s tyre strategy.



And they are updated Malaysian GP Hamilton Vs. Vettel Analysis: http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/04/2 ... ettel.html

1. Lap by Lap performance of Vettel and Hamilton
2. The Gap between Hamilton and Vettel per each lap
3. Lap by Lap position of each driver

Fantastic Analysis...

You don't do much other than advertise formula1onlive, do you?

[marcush.]

My "take away" from the race: Newey is worth about 80 HP (lack of KERS).

Newey is worth 80HP for 6seconds times number of laps... minus the risk of failure and recources needed to implement a working KERS system...

We will see VERY soon a race when the KERS shows Vettel the famous finger in a critcal situation -and you know who is going to take the blame for it.
Hero to zero ....they are well aware of it but without testing they will get under pressure already this weekend.

[i70q7m7ghw]

"We did not hear about Hamilton's potential penalty during the race because the issue was only raised by Alonso and Ferrari afterwards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 036210.stm

Ferrari cried foul on Hamilton, that's why he was penalised. Standard Ferrari tactics really. Case closed.

[bomz_za]

Vitaly Petrov airborne =D>

[ecapox]

"We did not hear about Hamilton's potential penalty during the race because the issue was only raised by Alonso and Ferrari afterwards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 036210.stm

Ferrari cried foul on Hamilton, that's why he was penalised. Standard Ferrari tactics really. Case closed.

How can you say that when Hamilton was quoted as saying that he expected to be penalized?

Lets add the other piece from Mr. Brundle

"We did not see anything in the commentary box that raised alarms but the stewards have access to far more footage and data than we do and I suspect they want to set a precedent in this new style of F1 racing."

[andrew]

"We did not hear about Hamilton's potential penalty during the race because the issue was only raised by Alonso and Ferrari afterwards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 036210.stm

Ferrari cried foul on Hamilton, that's why he was penalised. Standard Ferrari tactics really. Case closed.

If they did then they were correct to do so as Hamilton was weaving. It is not standard Ferrari tatics. It is standard F1 team tatics i.e. they all do it!

But here is a concept that will blow your mind. Are you sitting down?

The race stewards watch the race as it happens. It is entirely likely that they were doing their job and saw Hamilton being a naughty boy during the race and needed no prompting from Ferrari.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I'm not saying the penalty was wrong. Allow me add another quote...

"For example, there will be comparisons between what Hamilton did in Sepang and the tactics Felipe Massa adopted in Australia, as well as Vettel's defensive manouevres going into the first corner."

Consistancy. It seems the only reason Hamilton's weaving was investigated and peanlised was because Ferrari complained after they had been investigated and recieved their penalty. Pound to a pinch of sh*t had there not been contact, neither would have recieved a penalty. Consistancy?

Ps- there's no need to be condescending, thanks.

[chrys]

David Coulthard:
"The race director, Charlie Whiting, obviously did not spot it at the time, or did not deem it worthy of investigation. So clearly Ferrari and Fernando raised the issue when he went to see the stewards about the collision."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... aving.html

[andrew]

To say that Hamilton only got the penalty becausde Ferrari ran to the stewards is an incorrect assumption. There is nothing to suggest that at all.

As has been pointed out in the article that you reference, the race stewards have access to a hell of a lot more footage and information that we do.

They don't sit in a windowless room in the dark for 2 hours and then say "form an orderly que after the race outside our office."

[i70q7m7ghw]

Thanks for this chrys,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... aving.html

"On this last point I do not disagree. It seems a fair assumption that Fernando only reported Lewis’s weaving since he was already in trouble himself.

But that does not make his complaint any less valid. And once reported, the stewards have an obligation to uphold the rules. "

It was only investigated because it was reported. That is why other cases of weaving weren't peanlised. Case closed.

[andrew]

David Coulthard:
"The race director, Charlie Whiting, obviously did not spot it at the time, or did not deem it worthy of investigation. So clearly Ferrari and Fernando raised the issue when he went to see the stewards about the collision."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... aving.html

Yes here is the footage that no one saw and did not exist befoer Ferrari started jumping up and down. Damn CGI!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyitPKBCssw[/youtube]

I'm not a Ferrari fan but the constant bashing and bitching about them is so boring!