2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[yooogurt]

Baku, Singapore, Austin maybe some luck will come our way. But we need luck to get there or the other teams making mistakes.

You forgot Vegas.
But i think best chance its Baku, Charles special track.

[matt_b]

Strange to not wait until Lewis had cleared Stroll and Ocon and then boxed for Soft tyres, all they did was consolidate P6.

Team needs a some luck to get on the podium again like a perfectly timed SC or a problem with multiple cars ahead (which didn't happen today). The top 3 positions are pretty locked down at the moment (McLarens and Max).

[yooogurt]

Well, shame on everyone who waved the team for not providing a tow, it was obvious that even if there was a pole it would be impossible to hold on to it, but a top 6 from Hamilton with a lower start would not have been so easy

[ScuderiaLeo]

You forgot Vegas.
But i think best chance its Baku, Charles special track.

I did forget Vegas. The drama last season was so bad I just erased the track from my brain!

When asked about where they could win this year just now Leclerc said: Singapore. Maybe Baku or Vegas. But we'll never be the favorites, probably not even second favorites. And that they'll struggle to get on the podium at the rest of the tracks.

Hamilton also said he doesn't expect them to get podiums soon without a lot of luck.

Sounds like the drivers have really dialed back their expectations from earlier in the season, there was a brief period of time where Leclerc was getting podiums every other race At least they're getting closer to locking in P2 in the WCC but that's not a great consolation prize...

[venkyhere]

was there any LiCo in the race ? Anyone listened to the radios ?

[Xyz22]

The car was 4th fastest. Thankfully, Leclerc and Hamilton are quicker in race trim than Russell and especially Antonelli.

[ScuderiaLeo]

was there any LiCo in the race ? Anyone listened to the radios ?

Yes lots.

Especially in the first stint they both had to lico for brakes.

But I don't know if it was only Ferrari or if other teams had to as well.

[yooogurt]

was there any LiCo in the race ? Anyone listened to the radios ?

Alot of, almost from the start of the race.

[venkyhere]

was there any LiCo in the race ? Anyone listened to the radios ?

Yes lots.

Especially in the first stint they both had to lico for brakes.

But I don't know if it was only Ferrari or if other teams had to as well.

was there any LiCo in the race ? Anyone listened to the radios ?

Alot of, almost from the start of the race.

Thanks guys. But it has confused me even more. LiCo for brakes ? why ? in a track with large gaps between braking events and high speeds to provide good cooling. Doesn't make sense, unless they closed up the ducts too aggressively and kept the smallest mousehole as the inlet - I don't expect the team to get this wrong, that's too amateur a mistake.
Then again, LiCo from the start itself ? I can understand if it's for fuel, as there was no SC/VSC and aggressive underfuelling would have forced to LiCo towards the end of the race.
Then what was the LiCo for ? plankwear ? I thought they had already addressed ride height before Q (car looked 'higher' than others ; Piastri even commented in the cooldown room that Ferrari was a boat in the corners).

Utterly confused.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Thanks guys. But it has confused me even more. LiCo for brakes ? why ? in a track with large gaps between braking events and high speeds to provide good cooling. Doesn't make sense, unless they closed up the ducts too aggressively and kept the smallest mousehole as the inlet - I don't expect the team to get this wrong, that's too amateur a mistake.
Then again, LiCo from the start itself ? I can understand if it's for fuel, as there was no SC/VSC and aggressive underfuelling would have forced to LiCo towards the end of the race.
Then what was the LiCo for ? plankwear ? I thought they had already addressed ride height before Q (car looked 'higher' than others ; Piastri even commented in the cooldown room that Ferrari was a boat in the corners).

Utterly confused.

This was lap 3 for Leclerc



Lap 5 for Hamilton



It might have been also that Hamilton and Leclerc were both very aggressive at the start. After things calmed down Leclerc's pace came back and he didn't need to do as much Lico.

[MattLightBlue]

The car was 4th fastest. Thankfully, Leclerc and Hamilton are quicker in race trim than Russell and especially Antonelli.

Car was 3rd force this weekend. Had they adopted the same wing load as Mercedes, they would have been 3rd as well, but without the chance of getting on top 3 on Saturday.

[Fakepivot]

I don't recall same level of Lico as other race like Austria, after Charles settle down he had very good pace, and Bryan only asked once or twice to do some lico wherever possible for Tyre temp.

[ScuderiaLeo]

[yooogurt]

LiCo for brakes ? why ? in a track with large gaps between braking events and high speeds to provide good cooling. Doesn't make sense, unless they closed up the ducts too aggressively and kept the smallest mousehole as the inlet - I don't expect the team to get this wrong, that's too amateur a mistake.

If the team doesn't "choke" the brakes so much to warm them up in qualifying, we will start in the bottom ten at best (just remember the pace in qualifying at the start of the season), and with the density of results in Monza qualifying, it would hardly be an exit from Q2. And all this for the sake of the plank, such compromises.
Nothing new, we have been suffering since the beginning of the season, the team just found a better way out of this problem, starting higher and do lico is more profitable than starting from one place (3 letters starts with a ends with s) and getting stuck in the drs train.

[catent]

The car was 4th fastest. Thankfully, Leclerc and Hamilton are quicker in race trim than Russell and especially Antonelli.

Mercedes did not have the faster car this weekend. By every objective measure, Ferrari was the 3rd fastest team.