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None of the FIA international F3000 champs made F1 WDC

Season Champion Team Champion Car
1985 Christian Danner BS Automotive March 85B-Cosworth
1986 Ivan Capelli Genoa Racing March 86B-Cosworth
1987 Stefano Modena Onyx March 87B-Cosworth
1988 Roberto Moreno Bromley Motorsport Reynard 88D-Cosworth
1989 Jean Alesi Eddie Jordan Racing Reynard 89D-Mugen
1990 Érik Comas DAMS Lola T90/50-Mugen
1991 Christian Fittipaldi Pacific Racing Reynard 91D-Mugen
1992 Luca Badoer Crypton Engineering Reynard 92D-Cosworth
1993 Olivier Panis DAMS Reynard 93D-Cosworth
1994 Jean-Christophe Boullion DAMS Reynard 94D-Cosworth
1995 Vincenzo Sospiri Super Nova Racing Reynard 95D-Cosworth
1996 Jörg Müller RSM Marko Lola T96/50-Zytek
1997 Ricardo Zonta Super Nova Racing Lola T96/50-Zytek
1998 Juan Pablo Montoya Super Nova Racing Lola T96/50-Zytek
1999 Nick Heidfeld West Competition Lola T99/50-Zytek
2000 Bruno Junqueira Petrobras Lola T99/50-Zytek
2001 Justin Wilson Nordic Racing Lola T99/50-Zytek
2002 Sébastien Bourdais Super Nova Racing Lola B02/50-Zytek
2003 Björn Wirdheim Arden International Lola B02/50-Zytek
2004 Vitantonio Liuzzi Arden International Lola B02/50-Zytek

closest came Montoya who finished P3 twice. The GP2 series champs were:

Season Champion Second Third Team Champion
2005 Nico Rosberg (ART Grand Prix) Heikki Kovalainen Scott Speed ART Grand Prix
2006 Lewis Hamilton (ART Grand Prix) Nelson Piquet, Jr. Alexandre Prémat ART Grand Prix
2007 Timo Glock (iSport International) Lucas di Grassi Giorgio Pantano iSport International
2008 Giorgio Pantano (Racing Engineering) Bruno Senna Lucas di Grassi Barwa International Campos Team
2009 Nico Hülkenberg (ART Grand Prix) Vitaly Petrov Lucas di Grassi ART Grand Prix

From this series Hamilton went on to become F1 WDC
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He didn't say International F3000, though.
Too busy to do much wikiing, just a though.

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It was a swerve ball... And as WB must be off work at the moment, he was on here in a flash.

Well done.

So, another riddle please :mrgreen:
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timbo wrote:He didn't say International F3000, though.
I actually checked the national F3000 lists as well. No champ made F1 WDC either.

So off we go to another safety in F1 question. One of the main causes of death in racing accidents in the past were basilar skull fractures. In the last ten years F1 has introduced numerous safety measures to the cars and the drivers's personal equipment and the tracks to prevent such injury. Name at least five safety features to the drivers personal safety equipment, three to the tracks and ten to the car design that are aimed at preventing or mitigating risks of basilar skull fractures in accidents and driver recovery.
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WhiteBlue wrote:
timbo wrote:He didn't say International F3000, though.
I actually checked the national F3000 lists as well. No champ made F1 WDC either.

So off we go to another safety in F1 question. One of the main causes of death in racing accidents in the past were basilar skull fractures. In the last ten years F1 has introduced numerous safety measures to the cars and the drivers's personal equipment and the tracks to prevent such injury. Name at least five safety features to the drivers personal safety equipment, three to the tracks and ten to the car design that are aimed at preventing or mitigating risks of basilar skull fractures in accidents and driver recovery.
the best f3000 wdc is massa. Second in f1

let me make a start for your list:

drivers:
1 Hans
2 Better helmets?
3
4
5

track
1 larger run off area's
2
3

car design
1 higher head protection
2 better crash structure front
3 rear
4 side
5 removable seat
6
7
8
9
10

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No doubt that better helmets did count.

I would actually count the removable seat into the driver equipment. It is removed with the driver and fitted to his personal sizes. The marshals all carry special extraction tools which attach to two quick release points in the survival cell and release the seat in seconds.

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I'll carry on with this list..

the best f3000 wdc is massa. Second in f1 *Massa was Euro F3000 champ?*

let me make a start for your list:

drivers:
1 Hans
2 Better helmets?
3 wider seatbelt straps
4
5

track
1 larger run off area's - Tarmac'd too
2 Tec Pro type barriers
3 angled barriers

car design
1 higher head protection
2 better crash structure front
3 rear
4 side
5 removable seat
6 minimum distance from front of cockpit to driver
7
8
9
10


In fact - reading your Q again WB - how the hell do you have this many specifics for a basalar skull fracture? It is a real accident - HANS has been the main solution (apart from driver crashing head on into things at high G.

Care to give us a clue?
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Here are the hints.

Think of the dangers of extracting a driver with spinal injury and what was done to allow a driver to exit the car more easily. Also think about impact from above the driver.

drivers:
1 Hans
2 Better helmets
3 wider seatbelt straps
4 personalized seat with quick release for driver extraction with seat
5 (think about the suits)

track
1 larger run off area's - Tarmac'd too
2 Tec Pro type barriers
3 angled barriers

car design
1 higher head protection
2 better crash structure front
3 rear crash protection
4 side crash protection
5 minimum distance from front of cockpit to driver
6 (think data)
7 (think front vertical)
8 (think rear vertical)
9 (think damping)
10 (think extraction from tub)
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WhiteBlue wrote:Here are the hints.

Think of the dangers of extracting a driver with spinal injury and what was done to allow a driver to exit the car more easily. Also think about impact from above the driver.

drivers:
1 Hans
2 Better helmets
3 wider seatbelt straps
4 personalized seat with quick release for driver extraction with seat
5 the shoulder straps?

track
1 larger run off area's - Tarmac'd too
2 Tec Pro type barriers
3 angled barriers

car design
1 higher head protection
2 better crash structure front
3 rear crash protection
4 side crash protection
5 minimum distance from front of cockpit to driver
6 (think data)black box
7 (think front vertical)stronger front roll hoop
8 (think rear vertical) stronger rear roll hoop
9 (think damping) soft cockpit walls
10 (think extraction from tub)stardard sized cock pit, with enough room

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RDJEHV

drivers:
1 Hans
2 Better helmets
3 wider seatbelt straps
4 personalized seat with quick release for driver extraction with seat
5 suit shoulder handles for driver extraction

track
1 larger run off area's - Tarmac'd too
2 Tec Pro type barriers
3 angled barriers

car design
1 higher head protection
2 better crash structure front
3 rear crash protection
4 side crash protection
5 minimum distance from front of cockpit to driver
6 black box
7 stronger front roll hoop
8 stronger rear roll hoop
9 soft cockpit walls, foam cushion
10 wide cockpit opening template

Yep, over to you RDJEHV
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I fail to see how black box may prevent spinal injury, but interesting info nonetheless.

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timbo wrote:I fail to see how black box may prevent spinal injury, but interesting info nonetheless.
In order to set crash safety standards you have to know what actually causes damage. The FiA black box has significantly contributed to decisions on safety. Once you make the cars save enough you need to know which kind of decelleration is actually causing the most damage. It is often not the peak G that hurts but the length of exposure to high G. It is not only basal scull fracture but also decelleration to the various brain parts that inflict major injury.
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WhiteBlue wrote:
timbo wrote:I fail to see how black box may prevent spinal injury, but interesting info nonetheless.
In order to set crash safety standards you have to know what actually causes damage. The FiA black box has significantly contributed to decisions on safety. Once you make the cars save enough you need to know which kind of decelleration is actually causing the most damage. It is often not the peak G that hurts but the length of exposure to high G. It is not only basal scull fracture but also decelleration to the various brain parts that inflict major injury.
I kinda see your point, but those things are studied a lot for general car safety and black box is not the best tool obviously.

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timbo wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:
timbo wrote:I fail to see how black box may prevent spinal injury, but interesting info nonetheless.
In order to set crash safety standards you have to know what actually causes damage. The FiA black box has significantly contributed to decisions on safety. Once you make the cars save enough you need to know which kind of decelleration is actually causing the most damage. It is often not the peak G that hurts but the length of exposure to high G. It is not only basal scull fracture but also decelleration to the various brain parts that inflict major injury.
I kinda see your point, but those things are studied a lot for general car safety and black box is not the best tool obviously.
I would have accepted other items as well. For instance quick release steering wheels for fast extraction. The data recorder is much underestimated in the research for safety. Many people do not know what is actually recorded.

http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2000-01-3551
Abstract:
The FIA has fitted Accident Data Recorders (ADR) to all Formula1 cars since 1997, and will also fit them to Formula 3000 cars from 2000. Data is recovered, where possible, from all incidents where control of the car has been lost, and the car either impacts another car, or leaves the track and is arrested in a run off area, or impacts a barrier.

3-axis, high-g (\mP250g) and low-g (\mP50g) accelerometers, car speed, throttle and steering, the lap marker, and from 2000, yaw rate are recorded. The data is analysed to determine the deceleration on the track and the performance of circuit safety features such as run-off areas and barriers. It is sometimes possible to determine the cause of the loss of control from the data available. The data is used to compute deceleration rates for use in the FIA's Circuit and Safety Analysis System (CSAS) for the assessment of circuit safety features, assess barrier and car impact performance, and provide data for accident reconstruction and modelling. A Severity Index Coefficient (SIC) has been developed to enable impacts to be assessed quickly for their potential to cause head injuries, in order to rate them according to their need for fuller analysis.
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WhiteBlue wrote:I would have accepted other items as well. For instance quick release steering wheels for fast extraction. The data recorder is much underestimated in the research for safety. Many people do not know what is actually recorded.
Weren't fast release steering wheels introduced much earlier than last 10 years?