2025 McLaren F1 Team

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_cerber1 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:19
Yep. Lower speeds being the clear improvement so far.

Edit: more than low speed. Front balance and grip.
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Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:17
Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:57
Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:49


Agreed but RUS rears looked TERRIBLE at the end of his run
As far as I could tell, that wasn't the case no? His second stint was very consistent, doing mostly low 35s (35.1). Was he on C2 or C1 though? Because Oscar was on C1 for his middle stint.
they showed his second stint pit stop on TV and the tire looked awful. actually looked like he had run over a bunch of marbles....maybe had an off on the way in
Also his middle stint was on C2 whereas Oscar had C1s. Even if Russell matched him it's still a net win for McLaren, but I think he was just slightly slower when you remove Oscar's traffic-affected outliers. So a good stint by Oscar nonetheless.

Also, as much as I like Oscar, I do think Lando would have better race pace on the "harder" but more representative high temps today, so overall quite positive I would say. McLaren is probably the happiest team from this test, but it's difficult to properly read beyond that imo.

I don't think it's wise to take Mercedes and RedBull out of the picture so early and Ferrari might still find a sweet spot and fix their balance when the season gets going. McLaren had a good test, but until we see how they fare in the first 2-3 races, no guarantees they're in a comfortable lead imo.
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Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:42
With (probably) slightly better track conditions, Russell kind of matched Oscar's pace in his second stint. Now Russell is looking about 2 tenths off in the third stint, but Oscar cut that one short anyway.

So at least at the hands of Oscar, the car was pretty good on the first stint, matched with Russell on the second.
Mercedes seems like have improved quite a lot in terms of deg, but their best stint (the second) came at a later time when the temps were slightly lower.
Russell started his race sim quite a bit later and today that meant a big difference in temperature during their stints. Yesterday the difference wasn't really noticeable because the temps were stable throughout the day.

If Piastri is still ahead in the sim (and he is), that is probably a further confirmation that Norris pace yesterday was realistic.

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_cerber1 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:19
Can we say ominous yet?
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The most important thing would be to keep that wide setup window they already had. Hope this keeps up.

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We look quicker in the sub 150 corners than russell, and the telemetry tentatively suggests to me that Mclaren were either fueled more or detuned.

Looks good.
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From AMuS (longer version of that quote from the tweet).
But one thing should give McLaren’s opponents pause for thought. “Bahrain has always been a difficult track for us in the past. Last year, we were only the fourth force. A lot of traction is required here, and we lost time there.

Now it looks like we have gained at our weak point without sacrificing our strength in the medium-speed corners,” team boss Andrea Stella sums up the first long run with the new MCL39.

While most teams judge Bahrain with its strange layout and little variance in the corner radii as an outlier and therefore not a relevant test track, Stella sees it differently:

Stella: “For us, Bahrain is a good indicator of whether we have solved our problems. We would have learned less in Melbourne or Suzuka.”

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Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:17
Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:57
Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:49


Agreed but RUS rears looked TERRIBLE at the end of his run
As far as I could tell, that wasn't the case no? His second stint was very consistent, doing mostly low 35s (35.1). Was he on C2 or C1 though? Because Oscar was on C1 for his middle stint.
they showed his second stint pit stop on TV and the tire looked awful. actually looked like he had run over a bunch of marbles....maybe had an off on the way in
The pace was near metronomic so whatever you saw wasn't affecting his pace.

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From what I see in other team channels things are only good for Mclaren. Reports from Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari are all mentioning ok programs but missing something. Here on the other hand we are all good to go. Things though may change in Melbourne but first impressions show that Mclaren has a good margin. The question is considering how Max likes to divebombs Mclaren cars out of bounds how are we going to contain him.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 20:02
The question is considering how Max likes to divebombs Mclaren cars out of bounds how are we going to contain him.
i bet/hope Lando spent all winter thinking about this

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Time for him to prove that he won't be Verstappen's second fiddle forever. Time to send him to the grass to stop him from passing.

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I doubt Lando will see much of Max at least early on assuming Red Bull can actually develop in season. Lando should have a straight fight with Oscar and get it done easy this year. It's Lando's WDC.
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I think people are getting carried away. It was a good test, lets leave it at that. Wait for the first race at least before going all in with these predictions.
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Matt2725 wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:50
Macklaren wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 18:17
Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 17:57


As far as I could tell, that wasn't the case no? His second stint was very consistent, doing mostly low 35s (35.1). Was he on C2 or C1 though? Because Oscar was on C1 for his middle stint.
they showed his second stint pit stop on TV and the tire looked awful. actually looked like he had run over a bunch of marbles....maybe had an off on the way in
The pace was near metronomic so whatever you saw wasn't affecting his pace.
His pace was good. He matched Oscar, but Oscar was on C1s on the second stint not C2s.

Not to mention the 1 hour difference between the runs where Russell had 6-7 degrees cooler track temps, which undoubtedly helps consistency.
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Emag wrote:
28 Feb 2025, 20:26
I think people are getting carried away. It was a good test, lets leave it at that. Wait for the first race at least before going all in with these predictions.
This ^ and the fact that it is a very long season ahead. Last year Red Bull won all opening races with outright domination and ended in 3rd as constructors.
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