2021 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 12-14

[Scorpaguy]

Regardless of blame/fault, what is the thought on intent:

Would the "85" provide a marked advantage over spec?

Is this a cheat or just human error?

Would Toto allow this...or done by an underling (Ham may be a bit of a narcissistic DB...but cannot see him going down
the Lance Armstrong route)?

[djones]

Regardless of blame/fault, what is the thought on intent:

Would the "85" provide a marked advantage over spec?

Is this a cheat or just human error?

Would Toto allow this...or done by an underling (Ham may be a bit of a narcissistic DB...but cannot see him going down
the Lance Armstrong route)?

There is no way they would cheat on purpose, the brand damage would be huge.

[Senna55]

Is there any clear evidence that Max touched rear wing, apart from 240p video footage?
Low quality footage can't be used as evidence, as it cannot be seen whether he is touching it or holding his finger near the wing..

[LM10]

Regardless of blame/fault, what is the thought on intent:

Would the "85" provide a marked advantage over spec?

Is this a cheat or just human error?

Would Toto allow this...or done by an underling (Ham may be a bit of a narcissistic DB...but cannot see him going down
the Lance Armstrong route)?

There is no way they would cheat on purpose, the brand damage would be huge.

You were not saying the same about Ferrari in 2019. I don’t think that Mercedes is the only brand not wanting to be damaged out there.

[f1jcw]

Regardless of blame/fault, what is the thought on intent:

Would the "85" provide a marked advantage over spec?

Is this a cheat or just human error?

Would Toto allow this...or done by an underling (Ham may be a bit of a narcissistic DB...but cannot see him going down
the Lance Armstrong route)?

There is no way they would cheat on purpose, the brand damage would be huge.

You were not saying the same about Ferrari in 2019. I don’t think that Mercedes is the only brand not wanting to be damaged out there.

1. Is failing a out and out test
2. The other is exploiting a grey area in the rules.

[basti313]

Should Mercedes provide reliable evidence that human touch damages an initially durable wing? Have a test: examine the wing, then the technical inspector touches, investigate again. Easily? Or should the inspectors believe that everything was as Mercedes claim?

All Merc have to do is pass 1% of doubt.

It does not even have to be as high as 1% doubt.

So many people don't seem to grasp this is not actually about did Max damage the wing (of course he didn't!), it's about the legal implications of the fact Max touched it.

Yes, as I said...there is rule NR.1 that car Nr 44 is not at fault.

For any other car it would be DSQ if the team could not prove that it is at 100% not their fault. See Aston and the fuel as an example. It was completely ok for everyone here, that the FIA said "show us the fuel" and once Aston failed to do so...case closed.

Here really more than enough people claim that a less 1% chance about that Max touched it is enough to put up an argument...this is how the view on Merc and their FIA connection really changed reality and thinking. I am shocked.

Still Max is a clear reprimand. They need to stop this touching other cars. It should have been stopped years ago though...

[Tizz]

I think there is one thing many on here can agree on. This delay means it’s clearly very messy behind the scenes.

It is a farce that they cannot take a decision before fp2

[f1jcw]

What Merc and FIA connection?

Do you want to come out and say something instead of innuendo, lets have it?
Let us see this list

come on

[Starkblood80]

All Merc have to do is pass 1% of doubt.

It does not even have to be as high as 1% doubt.

So many people don't seem to grasp this is not actually about did Max damage the wing (of course he didn't!), it's about the legal implications of the fact Max touched it.

Yes, as I said...there is rule NR.1 that car Nr 44 is not at fault.

I really don’t understand why people keep pushing this narrative when it is demonstrably false, it really doesn’t do the point you’re trying to make any favours.

[max_speed]

Looks like Alonso is gonna decide merc penalty.

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/8041 ... stigation/

[LM10]

There is no way they would cheat on purpose, the brand damage would be huge.

You were not saying the same about Ferrari in 2019. I don’t think that Mercedes is the only brand not wanting to be damaged out there.

1. Is failing a out and out test
2. The other is exploiting a grey area in the rules.

I know the difference, but djones does not. He was flooding the forum with “Ferrari are cheating” day in day out. So I know why I replied to him the way I did.
But that’s off-topic.

[Laserguru]

I think there is one thing many on here can agree on. This delay means it’s clearly very messy behind the scenes.

It is a farce that they cannot take a decision before fp2

That is thanks to Mercedes applying giulianli’s method by shitting the place all over so the original offence is lost by all the controversies. Its applied by Toto successfully in multiple occasions this year, which is clever. Funny enough, Max is lending him a hand again. Guess it is in both their nature.

[Restomaniac]

With this and the supposed announcement over the next spider-man film I think I’m gonna break Twitter with my refreshing alone.

[SchuMassa]

[Ryar]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEFnPkqXIAM ... name=large

This is so disappointing.