F1 2016 pre-season testing

[godlameroso]

US compound will be seen in Canada and Monaco, I don't think it'll be used in Singapore, perhaps Baku.

[GM7]

Bottas did that time on Ultras

You're right, thank.

Winter-test : global conclusion (day 5).



So, for the moment, if we only look the timesheet the hierarchy is :

1] Mercedes
2] Force India (+0.688 sec)
3] Ferrari (+0.988 sec)
4] Williams (+1.407 sec)
5] Red Bull (+1.703 sec)
6] Mclaren (+1.713 sec)
7] Toro Rosso (+2.154 sec)
8] Renault (+2.241 sec)
9] Sauber (+2.471 sec)
10] Haas (+2.502 sec)
11] Manor (+2.903 sec)

[FLuidd]

Bottas did that time on Ultras

You're right, thank.

Winter-test : global conclusion (day 5).

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/201 ... 7-driv.png

So, for the moment, if we only look the timesheet the hierarchy is :

1] Mercedes
2] Force India (+0.688 sec)
3] Ferrari (+0.988 sec)
4] Williams (+1.407 sec)
5] Red Bull (+1.703 sec)
6] Mclaren (+1.713 sec)
7] Toro Rosso (+2.154 sec)
8] Renault (+2.241 sec)
9] Sauber (+2.471 sec)
10] Haas (+2.502 sec)
11] Manor (+2.903 sec)

This means nothing ...

You have to take all the stints time you can get along with the tyre they used , then ignore the first lap and the times where they are off the pace without ending the stint and only then you get a vague idea where everybody is.

I have managed to do this only with Mercedes and Ferrari and there seems to be around 0.2 sec per lap between them.

I say "around" because after collecting todays data I have noticed that Ferrari has the best time on Medium tyres as a part of a 5 lap stint.

[Mr Brooksy]

Does anyone else find it extremely strange that when Williams bolted on the US tyres, they only improved 0.3sec over their soft tyre pace?! Being that there is still the SS tyres in between those two compounds how can that car only improve such a small amount?

Excluding fuel levels and track temps etc, that just makes no sense to me. Anyone out there with more understanding help me get my head around this?

[giantfan10]

Does anyone else find it extremely strange that when Williams bolted on the US tyres, they only improved 0.3sec over their soft tyre pace?! Being that there is still the SS tyres in between those two compounds how can that car only improve such a small amount?

Excluding fuel levels and track temps etc, that just makes no sense to me. Anyone out there with more understanding help me get my head around this?

they may not have been pushing... they may have had the car full of fuel... remember the teams know how much performance they gain per kilos of fuel lost so for example fill the tank and do a run at max performance... to the general public the car looks slow while the engineers know pretty much exactly how fast their car will be on a low fuel run.. another trick is to push only during sector A on lap 1 and sector B on lap 2 and so on...

[justmoi]

Hi guys. First post.

Please quick question if anyone can help.

Is there any limit on the number of tyres teams can run during testing? Like can they just put on a brand new set every time they head out for a run if they wanted to?

[Gerhardsa]

As far as I know, they can run as many as they want/can afford. But there is no limitation

[Vasconia]

Does anyone else find it extremely strange that when Williams bolted on the US tyres, they only improved 0.3sec over their soft tyre pace?! Being that there is still the SS tyres in between those two compounds how can that car only improve such a small amount?

Excluding fuel levels and track temps etc, that just makes no sense to me. Anyone out there with more understanding help me get my head around this?

they may not have been pushing... they may have had the car full of fuel... remember the teams know how much performance they gain per kilos of fuel lost so for example fill the tank and do a run at max performance... to the general public the car looks slow while the engineers know pretty much exactly how fast their car will be on a low fuel run.. another trick is to push only during sector A on lap 1 and sector B on lap 2 and so on...

They are obviously hiding some potential, I dont think that Williams can improve so Little. And I obviously doubt that FI is the second fastest car.

[dot235]

they may not have been pushing... they may have had the car full of fuel... remember the teams know how much performance they gain per kilos of fuel lost so for example fill the tank and do a run at max performance... to the general public the car looks slow while the engineers know pretty much exactly how fast their car will be on a low fuel run.. another trick is to push only during sector A on lap 1 and sector B on lap 2 and so on...

Yep. Except most of the time they are only fooling fans, and not the other teams.
When there is full tank of fuel you can see the sparks etc, and adding 3 best sectors couldn't be more easy.

[Chuckjr]

Found the exact Ros quote.

His explaining he was on limit and why, when all teams are secretive about everything, highly suggest this was a planned/coached statement, and not actual reality.

“Today in particular we tried qualifying, to see where the one-lap limit is,” Rosberg told media. “It was riding on full attack on low fuel – and that felt super… even if I have to say that there is still room for improvement.”

Source:

http://m.grandprix247.com/site/grandpri ... 88000#2905

[f1316]

True to form, almost all the reliability issues for Ferrari seem to be affecting Kimi; let's hope that means Vettel has a trouble free run today and we see a race and/or quali sim for some proper comparison.

There's an autosport plus article about how Ferrari need to step up today. If they're confident the performance is in the car then I'd suggest it's only putting laps on the car that they *need* but from a fans perspective I'd love to see low fuel + soft tyre + engine turned up to see how it compares to Rosberg .

[iichel]

Maybe a very stupid question, but...
As I've understood, you can pretty much run anything at the pre-season testing. It doesn't have to comply with the technical regulations just yet. That obedience must start at FP1 in Melbourne.
So the PU, wings, fuel flow etc, they don't have to be legal. Right? (question 1)

But on the Renault F1 twitter, they posted that the R.S.16 had a check up from the FIA. Why does the FIA do this?
Maybe for safety reasons?
https://twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/stat ... 4545649665

[justmoi]

As far as I know, they can run as many as they want/can afford. But there is no limitation

Thanks

[Gerhardsa]

Maybe a very stupid question, but...
As I've understood, you can pretty much run anything at the pre-season testing. It doesn't have to comply with the technical regulations just yet. That obedience must start at FP1 in Melbourne.
So the PU, wings, fuel flow etc, they don't have to be legal. Right? (question 1)

But on the Renault F1 twitter, they posted that the R.S.16 had a check up from the FIA. Why does the FIA do this?
Maybe for safety reasons?
https://twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/stat ... 4545649665

Was wondering the same thing

[Vasconia]

Vettel 1'25"303 with the medium tyres.

Button and Sainz have done a stint with softs(not a long one, 8-9 laps I guess) but Button has stopped earlier, perhaps because of a higher degradation?