Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[munudeges]

You should thank Loic Bigois and his guys instead.

They should be thanking Geoff Willis and it should have been him going up on that podium, mark my words.

[xpensive]

Agreed, Willis is probably the biggest contributor to this revival.

[Lambeu]

Nope
Willis and Bell didn't do sh*t on the car

[munudeges]

Au contraire, I think you'll find Willis certainly has. It's Bigois who 'hasn't done ---' to this car - for three years in fact. The difference has been night and day.

[Ferraripilot]

Willis, Costa, Bell, Brawn, Schumacher made W03 what it is. They have a nack at building excellent cars.

JET, I definitely appreciate your realistic approach regarding tire temps and track conditions at future events, but Malaysia unfortunately proved to us that W03 can be set up to underheat the tires which is essentially what was happening at the end of the race in Malaysia when the track had dry areas. Mercedes can dial heat in or out of the car and I believe they have their hands around the situation now. Bahrain should be a good test for this of course.

[Lambeu]

Bigois warned them the W02 was going to be too short and overuse the tyres. RB and the rest didn't listen.
It's the frenchman who imposed that the car should be longer for this season.
Willis came to Mercedes in October, the car was basically already set for 2012, he didn't have any impact. Same with Costa and Bob Bell.

Funny how it's always the same people getting all the credit.
Ross Brawn for the BGP and Willis now for the W03...

Bigois didn't even get to go on the podium once in 2009. I mean WTF?
The man and his team (because let's not forget it is NOT a one man job) designed what I consider one of the best Formula 1 of the decade, the BGP001. He also designed the Prost JS45 which could've won the championship in 97 if Panis didn't crash in Canada.
And now people are calling him incompetent? Unbelievable...

I am a reader of this forum and finally decided to register today to set things straight about who really deserve some credit.

[WhiteBlue]

McLaren obviously have the best tyre simulator and are particularly good at getting the setup right for the tyres. Mercedes are still catching up in that discipline.

The good news is that the car is not fundamentally flawed. It is a setup issue that they will get on top of.

Looks like our faith in Mercedes pace was justified. =D>
Please keep on the good work!

[Ferraripilot]

Bigois warned them the W02 was going to be too short and overuse the tyres. RB and the rest didn't listen.
It's the frenchman who imposed that the car should be longer for this season.
Willis came to Mercedes in October, the car was basically already set for 2012, he didn't have any impact. Same with Costa and Bob Bell.

Funny how it's always the same people getting all the credit.
Ross Brawn for the BGP and Willis now for the W03...

Bigois didn't even get to go on the podium once in 2009. I mean WTF?
The man and his team (because let's not forget it is NOT a one man job) designed what I consider one of the best Formula 1 of the decade, the BGP001. He also designed the Prost JS45 which could've won the championship in 97 if Panis didn't crash in Canada.
And now people are calling him incompetent? Unbelievable...

I am a reader of this forum and finally decided to register today to set things straight about who really deserve some credit.

Kind thanks for the reminder of this Lambeu!

[wunderkind]

Bigois warned them the W02 was going to be too short and overuse the tyres. RB and the rest didn't listen.
It's the frenchman who imposed that the car should be longer for this season.
Willis came to Mercedes in October, the car was basically already set for 2012, he didn't have any impact. Same with Costa and Bob Bell.

Funny how it's always the same people getting all the credit.
Ross Brawn for the BGP and Willis now for the W03...

Bigois didn't even get to go on the podium once in 2009. I mean WTF?
The man and his team (because let's not forget it is NOT a one man job) designed what I consider one of the best Formula 1 of the decade, the BGP001. He also designed the Prost JS45 which could've won the championship in 97 if Panis didn't crash in Canada.
And now people are calling him incompetent? Unbelievable...

I am a reader of this forum and finally decided to register today to set things straight about who really deserve some credit.

Thank you for the information Lambeu. I can understand the frustration Bigois must have to be overlooked for the success of the W03. But at the same time, he must have the great satisfaction of seeing the W03 winning. So how much of the W03 is John Owen and how much is Bigois?

Hats off to Bigois!

[Byronrhys]

We will never know, it has been a team effort though, but I do feel after Bob Bell relieved Ross a little the team has been able to function better with a proper TD.

[spadeflush]

Yes, our faith has finally paid off! Its an amazing achievement to win a race so dominantly in just their 3rd year after finishing so far behind the leaders in the previous 2 years. I don't think one person can be responsible for this upheaval, credit goes to the entire team. Fantastic drive by Nico, wonder where Schumi wud've finished had he not got such bad luck, again.

[raymondu999]

Depends what the intrinsic issue relating to wear is.

I'm still not convinced it's a wear/deg issue. I still think it's a temp issue in that their car is very "picky" of track temp vs setup (eg a setup that works in 23 degrees doesn't work in 28 degrees)

[bot6]

Bigois certainly had a major influence in the design of the W03, but I'm sure Bell, Willis and Costa had major influence in the procedures, organization and build quality at Mercedes, which are all equally important to obtain a winning car.

I think credit also goes to all those big names managing to work together as a team, when they each used to be the boss somewhere else.

[munudeges]

Bigois's track record is somewhat less than impressive - and that's putting it politely. I'm afraid no one is selling the idea that the identical group of people who had the Brawn falling backwards and who penned the aerodynamically poor cars for the past couple of years have now suddenly changed their spots. There's nowhere to hide.

[wunderkind]

Bigois's track record is somewhat less than impressive - and that's putting it politely. I'm afraid no one is selling the idea that the identical group of people who had the Brawn falling backwards and who penned the aerodynamically poor cars for the past couple of years have now suddenly changed their spots. There's nowhere to hide.

True, but maybe Bigois was overworked trying to cover for too many roles. Hopefully, the new structure at Mercedes GP will allow him and others to perform to their maximum capability.

Now, if they can design some fail-safe wheel locking nuts.