Is Hamilton desperate or what?

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Anyone watch the Senna tribute on topgear last night??
More could have been done.
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I did.

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DaveKillens wrote:The Silver Homes had a very boring race once things settled down. Button was a smidgen quicker, but couldn't close to attempt a pass, and thus chose the intelligent and mature strategy of following and waiting. The Homes couldn't close with those in front, he posed no threat.
But why, when Hamilton was in "fuel save" mode, and running slower, did Button , who was not in "fuel save "mode, slow down to match his times. There was his chance! But it does raise the question. Where both cars fuelled the same? And if so, why did Hamilton have to conserve fuel and button didn't. Maybe there is an unwritten agreement that whoever is ahead , sets the pace?? Team orders? Surely not!

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Of course not. Button was trailing Silver Homes, and knew that if he closed the gap to launch a passing attempt, Silver Homes would have turned up the wick and fought back. That would have possibly resulted in the scenario at Turkey, where Silver Homes did fight back after a passing attempt, and almost wrecked both cars out. No, better to take the smart path rather than risk an accident with someone who has previously displayed the tendency to raise the risk factor.
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Paul wrote:It could be that the blown diffuser isn't very much suited to his driving style. I would imagine the fastest way of taking a corner with a blown diffuser being to brake early and then just floor it through the apex and out of the corner. Which is pretty much the opposite of what Lewis is good at.
I don't think we can make this judgment yet. Look how good he was doing in practice and qualifying. I think he just had an average day. He could not do better than 4rth, so that may have took the fire out his belly.

Next race, he needs to be desperate. The other teams are closing fast, and he needs to up the gap. He has to win in Hungary. He can't continue collecting seconds and thirds. Mclaren need to imrpove the car to atleast 0.4s gap to redbull; that's all he needs.
For Sure!!

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Mclaren is smart enough to cater for any event without resorting to Redbull or Ferrari slips ..
they have had their share of fines lately and i guess that pocket is empty now..so better be smart with strategy.cool .. I do like them for this smart ass approach.
At this rate I see them as the favorites for the title ..with the third quickest car.. brilliant if it works out.

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DaveKillens wrote:Of course not. Button was trailing Silver Homes, and knew that if he closed the gap to launch a passing attempt, Silver Homes would have turned up the wick and fought back. That would have possibly resulted in the scenario at Turkey, where Silver Homes did fight back after a passing attempt, and almost wrecked both cars out. No, better to take the smart path rather than risk an accident with someone who has previously displayed the tendency to raise the risk factor.
So you are saying that Button chickened out of racing?? I prefer to beliee that team orders came into play!

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ringo wrote:
Paul wrote:It could be that the blown diffuser isn't very much suited to his driving style. I would imagine the fastest way of taking a corner with a blown diffuser being to brake early and then just floor it through the apex and out of the corner. Which is pretty much the opposite of what Lewis is good at.
I don't think we can make this judgment yet. Look how good he was doing in practice and qualifying. I think he just had an average day. He could not do better than 4rth, so that may have took the fire out his belly.

Next race, he needs to be desperate. The other teams are closing fast, and he needs to up the gap. He has to win in Hungary. He can't continue collecting seconds and thirds. Mclaren need to imrpove the car to atleast 0.4s gap to redbull; that's all he needs.

dont be so ridiculous, he does not NEED to win at all.

what he does need is for the mclarens to be more competetive and allow him a chance of a win. a podium finish would be a good result this weekend.

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Hamilton is almost a win clear of anyone else..that is a nice lead in this championship.
Another 1-2 by Ferrari and him placed 3 or 4th and he is going into a string of weekends were Mclaren will be very competitive with a solid lead and no doubt will bag more valuable points.
On the other hand Vettel and Webber MUST win in Hungary ,becuase they are not the favs for spa or monza....
ferraris coming on song is just perfect for Macs ,in a situation when they may need another 4 weeks to get the most out of their package. I´m sure they love it..

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Marcush,

What about Button? Do you think he will be competitive at Spa and Monza or able to take points off Hamilton?
I think Hamilton is favourite, but his advantage could easily be whittled away with a DNF or a mistake. Ferrari and Red Bull are coming...
More could have been done.
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andrew wrote:I did.
Good to see Hamilton pay homage to the greatest. :D
More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
andrew wrote:I did.
Good to see Hamilton pay homage to the greatest. :D
He was so enthusiastic about the whole thing and you could tell it meant a lot to him. He was genuinely excited about the whole thing and honest about his reaction to Senna's death.
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gilgen wrote:
DaveKillens wrote:Of course not. Button was trailing Silver Homes, and knew that if he closed the gap to launch a passing attempt, Silver Homes would have turned up the wick and fought back. That would have possibly resulted in the scenario at Turkey, where Silver Homes did fight back after a passing attempt, and almost wrecked both cars out. No, better to take the smart path rather than risk an accident with someone who has previously displayed the tendency to raise the risk factor.
So you are saying that Button chickened out of racing?? I prefer to beliee that team orders came into play!
You can believe whatever you want. People believe all sorts of things that have no basis on reality or are crazy. Ever heard of conspiracy theories? :roll:

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
andrew wrote:I did.
Good to see Hamilton pay homage to the greatest. :D
Loved the sound of the old McLaren. The cars from the late 80s/early 90s just sounded fantastic. That was the highlight for me.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
andrew wrote:I did.
Good to see Hamilton pay homage to the greatest. :D
He was so enthusiastic about the whole thing and you could tell it meant a lot to him. He was genuinely excited about the whole thing and honest about his reaction to Senna's death.
I was surprised by it. I liked his child like excitemnt at the merest prod of the accelerator. Good piece by TopGear for a change...
(off topic)On BBC2 at 11 there was also the documentary on Le Mans in 1955 with regards to the Pierre Levegh accident.
I thought it disgraceful that the Jag manager insisted blaming Levegh for the accident by saying he was too old to be racing.
Overall though a very good look at a tragic day in Motor Racing, one that Jaguar could've made better by Following Mercedes in retiring the cars out of respect.
But they didnt...even after Mercedes Boss Neubauer begged them to retire which they flatly refused. "What will you do when you win......"
Hawthorn popped the champagne....
More could have been done.
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