Lewis Hamilton driving standards

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timbo wrote:What if Maldonado got injured?
What if Lewis was injured?

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Diesel wrote:
timbo wrote:What if Maldonado got injured?
What if Lewis was injured?
He was planning a move.

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ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
he opened up a can of woop ass on shumacher into turn 1. Overtake of the year.

Don't hate the player hate the game. 8)
He should go and thank Schumacher, later we saw how this "brilliant" overtake sent Maldonaldo into the barrier.
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Id love to see a few of the "safer" drivers in F1 taken out of their cars and some GP2/SWBR guys put in with their do or die moments.

Hamilton is being victomised here, and i generally dont like him. He pulled off the overtake of the year for me today. However i feel that his overtaking today was posibly the best in the feild, and probably the only one activly looking to overtake, the rest were all looking at the long "chess" game in strategy.

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Most F1 drivers today is some crybabies. They are affraid to overtake and cry when overtaken.
Then why would you even have the race?? Lets just have quali and give points by the position.

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You arent a racer if you dont attempt to overtake, lewis had a go, gave us the fans a spectacle, thats what we want right?

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I think maldonado turned ridiculously early trying to defend, and lewis was already making a maneuverer and was committed.

Massas crash in the tunnel was not hamilton's fault it was clear hamilton had a better drive out of the corner and went down the inside, massa got on the marbles and crashed

This is my opinion, if there is any evidence to prove otherwise i will back down, i think this thread is a bashing thread and should be closed, as everyone will always have apposing opinions about drivers, and as we have experienced threads like this only lead to one thing, people getting mad, i think it should be closed.
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timbo wrote:
HampusA wrote:IT WAS A JOKE. did you miss the latter part of the sentence? "Ali G says that"

Surely, that would be enough to get the joke but i guess not.
While the black part is clearly a joke, he was clearly annoyed with how many times steward called him. And he was called not without a reason.
With the amount of overtakes Hamilton has done he probably has the lowest overtake/incident ratio out of any driver on the grid today.
Really? And what does it prove? That if you're bald enough to make a move you can take less care about the safety?
What if Maldonado got injured?
Yea and i would too, not defending some of the moves he's done in this race but the stewards is really trying to kill all form of entertainment.
This is Monaco, it's a knife fight in a phonebooth, contact will happen, crashes will happen.

Regarding the quote below, If Senna wins 19 races of 20, the lose one where he ends up dead last. Is he all of a sudden a slow driver?
No. Hamilton is the best overtaker in F1 to date, he's pretty much the only guy creating any form of entertainment these days.

one lousy race does not mean you have lost all ability to overtake people.
the guy still has a natural feel for grip and brakes no other driver has on the grid.
the kid is a phenom without a doubt.
And this is coming from a Alonso/Kubica fan.
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Dragonfly wrote:
ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
he opened up a can of woop ass on shumacher into turn 1. Overtake of the year.

Don't hate the player hate the game. 8)
He should go and thank Schumacher, later we saw how this "brilliant" overtake sent Maldonaldo into the barrier.
Maldonado sent himself into the the McLaren. After that there was only one other place he could go!

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Looks to me that Massa has seen Hamilton in his mirrors and started to turn in.

Looks about 2 car lengths early in this pic.

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boydy19 wrote:Looks to me that Massa has seen Hamilton in his mirrors and started to turn in.

Looks about 2 car lengths early in this pic.

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Well I could say that Massa was reacting on Webber, since both also almost hit in mid turn the same moment. But then, why the hell was Massa even turning in there?
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Some onboard stuff

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjrZmK4eak[/youtube]

Maldonado cannot not see him. Or he is blind...
He also take a very early chord.

And then Massa overtake
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzyHNoWP ... r_embedded[/youtube]
Massa also take an early chord. It is why Hamilton touched him. With a normal line Hamilton would have made a clean pass...

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The video says no different. Massa definitely turns in early.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sO9aDoTRs0[/youtube]
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It does appear than Hamilton commits to the move, and the Massa moves to defend/turn. Hard call, ultimately I would call that a racing incident. I think the fact that Massa crashed out a few corners later (through no fault of Hamilton's) and the bleated like an injured lamb was the reason Hamilton was punished. As I say, it's a hard call.

The Maldonado one was down to experience. Maldonado is lacking experience and Lewis probably should have been wary of this. BUT, it's unlikely he knew which Williams it was, and the double move Maldonado pulls on the straight didn't really help.

Let's not forget this move took place at Turn 1, the first corner after the DRS zone, the effective 'overtaking corner' defined by the FIA for this weekend.

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Massa probably planned to go on the inside of Webber not thinking Hamilton would try and overtake right there.
Race incident i would say.
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not so sure its safe to say my opinion here as the thread might get locked

but if you are daft enough to leave the door open as both massa and maldanado did then you are equal in blame, its monaco ffs , one tyre width to the inside and the other car cannot get along side. its simple road positioning.

just to make it clear I am not fanboying it for hamilton he has lost a lot of his respect from many viewers by his ill considered comments and his slagging of the team

but he is right on his view about overtaking, it should be encouraged

webber did a top class move on koybiashi. even though he forced him of the track, he too could have positioned his car to defend the move but was also under the apparent belief that you can't over take at monaco

and then there is the other question, is forcing someone of the track similar to forcing someone of the road ?

if so then thats an incident that could have been avoided and webber should also be penalised.

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