Probably. Out of interest, does Newey keep the same people around him whenever he changes team or is it all on him? It is stagering to think of the number of excellent cars he has been instrumental in designing.Diesel wrote:If Newey left Red Bull, they would slowly go backwards down the grid. You can see this in McLaren & Williams.
are you judging vettel based on this season alone or his F1 career since he started as 3rd driver for bmw in 2006?Diesel wrote:I would say any driver in the top 3 teams could probably set that car up and dominate. Your suggesting that the other drivers are inexperienced F3000 drivers that don't know anything about setting a car up. All of the top drivers have this skill.
SV is not more the 'right driver' than any other driver in the top 3/4 teams. The car is massively superior, the guy who designed it has done it plenty of times before so it's no suprise. Couple that with the full backing of the team, and SV has got all the tools he needs to walk away with this championship.
There's no reason he shouldn't dominate at the moment either, really he should have done the same last year, they just made a big of a meal out of it.
Newey like all humans learn to do things better over time. Now he has more resources, freedom to create what he wants and better people around him. That's any engineer would want.Redmondo wrote:A little off-topic, but I think this Newey religion is a bit overboard. Doesn't anybody remember Ferrari beating him over the head with a baseball bat for -five- straight years? Or the fact that his cars were nowhere in 2006, 2007 and 2008?
He's obviously excellent but not everything he touches turns to gold.
Webber is driving a RedCow not a redBull..lol If he hadn't had his unfair share of problems he would still be a shoe in for WDC (if he was the number 1). What Vettel is doing any decent driver can do... stick it on pole and cruze to the finish.LionKing wrote:With this year tires and the available of DRS, I think it is more important to have the better car in race than the fastest car in qualifying.Diesel wrote:Webber is probably quite close to Vettel, but he doesn't have the full backing of the team. He says he's struggling to adapt to the Pirelli tyres this year. Let me think, which Red Bull driver was it that attended the first Pirelli tyre test last year? Red Bull had a massive problem with two championship contenders in their team last year, and it nearly lost them the title. It looks like this year they've fixed that problem.
Because track position is king.Why did not those McLaren drivers win the previous three races all where they were faster than Red Bull in race?
If you are fast in race, a lot of opportunities become available to you. Can use DRS on straights, pit a lap early for fresh tires to undercut. The lead car can not cover all the possible strategies. For instance in this race Vettel opened 3 and 4 seconds gap in first and second stints but the gap evaporated when he pitted later than Webber and Alonso.
Webber is nowhere near Vettel. The best he managed out of eight races is one second place which also means that he got beaten by a non-Red Bull car in seven races. As for the tires he should now have ~10K km on these Pirellis.
MW: I think this is probably our weakest track of the year, maybe, so we didn't do too badly today on a very weak track. We have a different regulation from Silverstone onwards and we expect that we can still be pretty competitive again. If we can keep Valencia as one of our weakest, definitely our top three weakest tracks, we didn't do too badly today, so we should go OK on the other ones.
And yes, Mclaren is now showing their superiority because of the 3 days of tyre testing with MP4-25 in Valencia early this year.Diesel wrote:Webber is probably quite close to Vettel, but he doesn't have the full backing of the team. He says he's struggling to adapt to the Pirelli tyres this year. Let me think, which Red Bull driver was it that attended the first Pirelli tyre test last year? Red Bull had a massive problem with two championship contenders in their team last year, and it nearly lost them the title. It looks like this year they've fixed that problem.
If you can't see that Vettel is being favoured inside that team then you are clearly blind.CHT wrote:And yes, Mclaren is now showing their superiority because of the 3 days of tyre testing with MP4-25 in Valencia early this year.Diesel wrote:Webber is probably quite close to Vettel, but he doesn't have the full backing of the team. He says he's struggling to adapt to the Pirelli tyres this year. Let me think, which Red Bull driver was it that attended the first Pirelli tyre test last year? Red Bull had a massive problem with two championship contenders in their team last year, and it nearly lost them the title. It looks like this year they've fixed that problem.
any definitive facts to prove that?Diesel wrote:If you can't see that Vettel is being favoured inside that team then you are clearly blind.CHT wrote:And yes, Mclaren is now showing their superiority because of the 3 days of tyre testing with MP4-25 in Valencia early this year.Diesel wrote:Webber is probably quite close to Vettel, but he doesn't have the full backing of the team. He says he's struggling to adapt to the Pirelli tyres this year. Let me think, which Red Bull driver was it that attended the first Pirelli tyre test last year? Red Bull had a massive problem with two championship contenders in their team last year, and it nearly lost them the title. It looks like this year they've fixed that problem.
