Agreed that the season feels really flat right now, sooner he wraps it up the better.
Aero is king and has been for the last few seasons, I really hope it changes next season because this is bad for business, and bad for motor racing fans.
to bad they don't give trophies for trying really hard.Shrieker wrote:They also have to be applauded for having the thickest wallet. I think some of their speed comes from being able to spend a lot much more without ever feeling the sting of it. That's my uneducated guess.FoxHound wrote: But red bull have to be applauded for finding this solution in such tight regulations and tests too.
Not really.flynfrog wrote:Speed costs money how fast do you want to spend. This applies at all levels of racing.
Aero (by which I think you mean downforce or perhaps L/D) has been king for decades, not just the last few seasons.Unc1e_M0nty wrote: Aero is king and has been for the last few seasons,
you must have never been involved with a spec series. They guys with more money can rent the track out for the weekend get better at setting up the car. They can afford a "more spec" motor. They can afford new tires every race. They can run data acquisition. They have more better tools ect. Not saying its a shut out but it sure doesn't hurt.SectorOne wrote:Not really.flynfrog wrote:Speed costs money how fast do you want to spend. This applies at all levels of racing.
Similar sports to F1 yes, but spec series no. The emphasis is much more on team/driver/setup.
In F1 it´s first and foremost car design and who can pump in the most money.
You also had teams like Honda and Toyota spending hundreds of millions for their mediocrity.flynfrog wrote:to bad they don't give trophies for trying really hard.Shrieker wrote:They also have to be applauded for having the thickest wallet. I think some of their speed comes from being able to spend a lot much more without ever feeling the sting of it. That's my uneducated guess.FoxHound wrote: But red bull have to be applauded for finding this solution in such tight regulations and tests too.![]()
Speed costs money how fast do you want to spend. This applies at all levels of racing.
They'll be so much faster with new tires it won't be such a problem.atanatizante wrote:RBR are very slow down on the straight so it'll be very interesting to see Vettel how is managing the situation after 5 or 6 laps into the race when he will hit the traffic ...
I was shocked to hear that as well. Apparently, Charlie Whiting argues that drivers aren't gaining an advantage during qualifying by leaving the track with all four tyres. Consistency anyone?!Juzh wrote:So cutting and extending corners in qualifying is permitted by charlie whiting. Expect some serious off-roading when things get real.
What I really wanna see here is how would be Vettel behind Hulk after the first pit stop on a similar situation like Lewis was in Korea ... Vettel 312km/h and Hulk 319km/h and a mighty traction setup for turn 3 ...Juzh wrote:They'll be so much faster with new tires it won't be such a problem.atanatizante wrote:RBR are very slow down on the straight so it'll be very interesting to see Vettel how is managing the situation after 5 or 6 laps into the race when he will hit the traffic ...
If vet hits drs train then he could have a problem, otherwise not so much i think. Hulk has maybe something like 300-305 kph max speed when heavy on fuel and no drs. And he's gonna have worse traction off turn 3 being on older tires than the ones who have just pitted (+ it's a red bull behind you with best traction of anyone). I do see some people going for hard tire start though, no question about it. Jenson button could be one of those.atanatizante wrote:What I really wanna see here is how would be Vettel behind Hulk after the first pit stop on a similar situation like Lewis was in Korea ... Vettel 312km/h and Hulk 319km/h and a mighty traction setup for turn 3 ...Juzh wrote:They'll be so much faster with new tires it won't be such a problem.atanatizante wrote:RBR are very slow down on the straight so it'll be very interesting to see Vettel how is managing the situation after 5 or 6 laps into the race when he will hit the traffic ...