2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Seanspeed
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bluechris wrote:
18 May 2022, 07:34
Ferrari needs a better wing when the DRS is open with lower drag like the RB one. I hope this will be the case and not this airbrake that i see in the image.
Making a bigger DRS opening would be fairly common sense stuff, but obviously Ferrari aren't doing this, probably cuz you still need have the whole package work efficiently when the flap is open, and I'm guessing the Ferrari in its current state would not with such a simplistic change.

I get the impression that Red Bull looked at how DRS zones exist on basically every damn straight on the calendar nowadays and genuinely built their package to work especially well with DRS open. It gives a qualifying advantage, and it gives an overtaking advantage in the race. The harder part is probably ensuring that the overall car still has great downforce when the DRS flap is closed, and well....that's why you have Adrian Newey.

But yea, I wouldn't be surprised that in the case of the FIA not showing any signs of cutting back DRS usage next year thanks to the effectiveness of the new regulations, more teams will look at trying to exploit this design strategy as well for next year's cars. It might be too late for Ferrari this year, though. Sure, there's lots of room for molding the sidepods from what they are now and all, but going away from what's likely a quite developed overall package to something quite different probably wouldn't lead to better results.

.poz
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Seanspeed wrote:
18 May 2022, 13:25
But yea, I wouldn't be surprised that in the case of the FIA not showing any signs of cutting back DRS usage next year thanks to the effectiveness of the new regulations
FIA ? The real boss now is Liberty Media and they like a lot fake overtakes with DRS on fake circuits like Miami...

JPower
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.poz wrote:
18 May 2022, 13:36
Seanspeed wrote:
18 May 2022, 13:25
But yea, I wouldn't be surprised that in the case of the FIA not showing any signs of cutting back DRS usage next year thanks to the effectiveness of the new regulations
FIA ? The real boss now is Liberty Media and they like a lot fake overtakes with DRS on fake circuits like Miami...
Nonsense.

wowgr8
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JPower wrote:
18 May 2022, 14:38
.poz wrote:
18 May 2022, 13:36
Seanspeed wrote:
18 May 2022, 13:25
But yea, I wouldn't be surprised that in the case of the FIA not showing any signs of cutting back DRS usage next year thanks to the effectiveness of the new regulations
FIA ? The real boss now is Liberty Media and they like a lot fake overtakes with DRS on fake circuits like Miami...
Nonsense.
Liberty bad america bad don't you know?

wowgr8
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Spoutnik wrote:
17 May 2022, 17:44
I would pay to see this happening really

I don't believe that for a second. Why would he even entertain the thought of leaving Mercedes ? The team who would give him the best car every season? Frankly at that time Ferrari were a joke of a team compared to Merc, this deal would never have been a possibility. Though I agree if he was at Ferrari in 2017 or 2018 we'd have at least 1 hybrid era championship
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Sevach
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2017 is a stretch but possible, during 2016 he was somewhat pissed at Mercedes "favoring" Rosberg.
Can't really see him leaving after 2018.

Wether Hamilton would've won for Ferrari comes down to who would Mercedes have driving for them...

wowgr8
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Sevach wrote:
18 May 2022, 15:56
2017 is a stretch but possible, during 2016 he was somewhat pissed at Mercedes "favoring" Rosberg.
Can't really see him leaving after 2018.

Wether Hamilton would've won for Ferrari comes down to who would Mercedes have driving for them...
Indeed, but at least at that point I think he was a lot better than the other drivers on the grid and would've made the difference against anybody in the Mercedes

Sevach
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wowgr8 wrote:
18 May 2022, 16:43
Sevach wrote:
18 May 2022, 15:56
2017 is a stretch but possible, during 2016 he was somewhat pissed at Mercedes "favoring" Rosberg.
Can't really see him leaving after 2018.

Wether Hamilton would've won for Ferrari comes down to who would Mercedes have driving for them...
Indeed, but at least at that point I think he was a lot better than the other drivers on the grid and would've made the difference against anybody in the Mercedes
I don't know really, maybe if the info that Hamilton is leaving becomes widespread Nico stays, thats a fascinating butterfly effect isn't it?
2017 i think quite few drivers could've won in the Merc.
2018 is where Seb dropped the ball hard, but Ferrari didn't do themselves many favors screwing a few "updates" down the stretch.

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wowgr8 wrote:
18 May 2022, 15:32
Spoutnik wrote:
17 May 2022, 17:44
I would pay to see this happening really

I don't believe that for a second. Why would he even entertain the thought of leaving Mercedes ? The team who would give him the best car every season? Frankly at that time Ferrari were a joke of a team compared to Merc, this deal would never have been a possibility. Though I agree if he was at Ferrari in 2017 or 2018 we'd have at least 1 hybrid era championship
Agreed. Makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

In 2016 Ferrari had NO reason to get rid of Vettel at all. Even if Lewis was annoyed at Mercedes, Ferrari simply wouldn't pay a huge sum to Vettel just to get Hamilton in there, because at the time it looked like no upgrade at all. And then for 2018, Lewis had zero reason to leave Mercedes and Ferrari, at the time again, still had no real reason to get rid of Vettel, at the time of his contract extension.

Slow news day IMO.

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wowgr8
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Déjà vu from Miami when we expected a new wing that never came. Would they really put on the old "fake" floor and sidepods just to hide the new ones? If that's the case then good job with the secrecy but it seems like a lot of effort to hide them for just one day

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wowgr8 wrote:
19 May 2022, 20:50
Déjà vu from Miami when we expected a new wing that never came. Would they really put on the old "fake" floor and sidepods just to hide the new ones? If that's the case then good job with the secrecy but it seems like a lot of effort to hide them for just one day
According to Binotto there really was a new wing inside the garage which they decided not to use because the track had lower grip than expected.

Also it won't be surprising to have Charles and Carlos driving different spec cars in FP1.
Some teams are more "this is our upgraded car" both drivers out on the new stuff as soon as possible, Ferrari under Binotto has been on the extremely methodical side of the fence for a while now.

JPower
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Fingers crossed but Sainz looked fastest of the field on the end practice long runs.

I think Max had the one lap advantage.

Its FP1 though. Let’s see what FP2 looks like.

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JPower wrote:
20 May 2022, 15:03
Fingers crossed but Sainz looked fastest of the field on the end practice long runs.

I think Max had the one lap advantage.

Its FP1 though. Let’s see what FP2 looks like.
I think LEC was even faster than those other 2 on used softs. On single lap looking forward to telemetry.

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top speed in FP1 Spain from fastest lap of each:
LEC 328
VER 323
SAI 323
RUS 320

finish line:
LEC 287
SAI 285
VER 281
RUS 282

Looks to me that the new DRS wing works.