In Season Test 1: Mugello, Italy - 01 to 03 May 2012

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Mugello is a Ferrari circuit is it not? Along with Fiorano? I could be wrong.
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raymondu999 wrote:Mugello is a Ferrari circuit is it not? Along with Fiorano? I could be wrong.
Yes it is the property of Ferrari.

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banibhusan wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Mugello is a Ferrari circuit is it not? Along with Fiorano? I could be wrong.
Yes it is the property of Ferrari.
Yup, Ferrari own it. Reason its being used is due to cost, Ferrari are offering it for free to all teams. Other teams have asked Red Bull if they can do a second in season test at the Red Bull Ring next year to keep costs down. Red Bull said they would see what they could do as if the larger teams can provide a track that they own for tests in the future it would be good for F1.

2013 is looking as the teams will have 12 days pre season, 9 days in season and a futher 4 post season as its looking as if 25 days testing will be a good number for the future of F1, and means that testing can be done and be cost effective.

Remember that testing costs a team in the same area of the grid as Sauber €300,000 to €400,000 a day depending on track locale. And a test generally lasts 5 days for a 3 day test and 6 fdor a 4 day test due to build and rip down days at the track.

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http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... gello.aspx

Ferrari confirms its Mugello plans. As CX posted obviously. :)

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Im looking forward to this test as its away from the homogenious Jerez and Barcelona tracks we have only had the past 3 years outwith Abu Dhabi for the young driver test.

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Is anyone expecting any of the teams to make any large strides with the testing at Mugello? Or would it be more likely any gains made in lap time reductions would be slight?

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Do teams have to use engines/gearboxes out of their yearly allocations for in season testing?

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SeijaKessen wrote:Is anyone expecting any of the teams to make any large strides with the testing at Mugello? Or would it be more likely any gains made in lap time reductions would be slight?
It depends on who makes the biggest leap.

Even if Ferrari sorts out their car it might still be half a second off-pace due to improvements by Mclaren, Renault, Mercedes, Red Bull.

No easy task, especially in this competitive season.
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JAllen wrote:Do teams have to use engines/gearboxes out of their yearly allocations for in season testing?

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Answer to that one is yes.

Teams have an allocation of 8 test engines and 5 gearboxes a year, essencially teams will use the same gearbox for the entire test, and change an engine after 2 days of running if they do 100 laps each day.

Williams at the last 2 pre season tests used the same gearbox and engine, whitch gave them both a distance covered of 3,686.760km.

This was so Williams could test their new 2012 gearbox, whitch is already more relyable than the 2011 one and the Renault RS27-2012 engine as Renault used some developmental parts on it and also wanted to measure the power loss if relyability became an issue if one of the Renault powered cars had a nightmare where the blew 3 engines in the first 7 to 8 events. Both Williams and Renbault walked away from that test happy, as they were ready to change both for the last 2 days of testing.

This rule is not in the sporting regs, however is governed by informal rules in-order to cut costs.

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Nando wrote:
SeijaKessen wrote:Is anyone expecting any of the teams to make any large strides with the testing at Mugello? Or would it be more likely any gains made in lap time reductions would be slight?
It depends on who makes the biggest leap.

Even if Ferrari sorts out their car it might still be half a second off-pace due to improvements by Mclaren, Renault, Mercedes, Red Bull.

No easy task, especially in this competitive season.
Sorry mate but McLaren and others aren't going to make any significant leaps on the development front. There's simply not much more time to be found at the sharp end of the grid. Lotus for instance brought a whole host of updates; FW, RW, sidepods, floor and got maybe a tenth and a half.
Either way I'm not saying Ferrari will close the gap, just saying the cars at the top can't go much further. This bodes well for Ferrari & the others cars behind the leaders.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
Nando wrote:
SeijaKessen wrote:Is anyone expecting any of the teams to make any large strides with the testing at Mugello? Or would it be more likely any gains made in lap time reductions would be slight?
It depends on who makes the biggest leap.

Even if Ferrari sorts out their car it might still be half a second off-pace due to improvements by Mclaren, Renault, Mercedes, Red Bull.

No easy task, especially in this competitive season.
Sorry mate but McLaren and others aren't going to make any significant leaps on the development front. There's simply not much more time to be found at the sharp end of the grid. Lotus for instance brought a whole host of updates; FW, RW, sidepods, floor and got maybe a tenth and a half.
Either way I'm not saying Ferrari will close the gap, just saying the cars at the top can't go much further. This bodes well for Ferrari & the others cars behind the leaders.
I certainly think atleast Merc will bring upgrades.

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I think everyone will. Otherwise what's to test? I doubt they'd use 24 hours worth of track time solely for the purpose of messing with setup and tyre sweetspots.
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:A ride around Mugello in the F2012
This is a pretty nice video i found. A bit long, but good quality and view.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzEjZRll ... re=related[/youtube]

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Sorry mate but McLaren and others aren't going to make any significant leaps on the development front. There's simply not much more time to be found at the sharp end of the grid. Lotus for instance brought a whole host of updates; FW, RW, sidepods, floor and got maybe a tenth and a half.
Either way I'm not saying Ferrari will close the gap, just saying the cars at the top can't go much further. This bodes well for Ferrari & the others cars behind the leaders.

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