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Lead boots wouldn't slow him down at this stage!!! Cant see anyone sticking the pace with him over the season, maybe a race here or there but not a hope over a season. Only way he can't win the championship is if he gets sidelined for a few months.NathanOlder wrote:Marquez is that fast im afraid. Dani has been blown away, Casey always seemed to better Dani, but not like Marquez does. I think Jorge would be the only challenger. I dont think Aleix has got it.
Yep. This also demonstrates how the driver (or rider in this instance) does make a difference, even in great machinery. Dani has had awesome equipment for years, although never winning the main prize, he did manage to consistently thoroughly beat his teammate - until Stoner and then Marquez came along, both of whom just got more out of the machinery than Dani could (2012 not-withstanding for obvious reasons).NathanOlder wrote:Marquez is that fast im afraid. Dani has been blown away, Casey always seemed to better Dani, but not like Marquez does. I think Jorge would be the only challenger. I dont think Aleix has got it.
Aleix is super fast but likes throwing the bike down the road during the race, I think that might be partially because he has the push his bike that bit more than the top guys to get the performance - so can't really read into that too muchNathanOlder wrote:Marquez is that fast im afraid. Dani has been blown away, Casey always seemed to better Dani, but not like Marquez does. I think Jorge would be the only challenger. I dont think Aleix has got it.
Marquez was always fearless, sometimes to his own detriment. This last race has shown the 'thinking' racer he is becoming. Who ever is mentoring him is bang on. He just sat behind Jorge. When the time was right he simply slipped past and smashed out a few fastest laps. As his competitor, this must now be very difficult to reconcile. Wild, fearless, fast, while restrained and considered when required. In any sport, he is almost the benchmark. Let's hope the sporting world takes it for what is - a joyous moment in time. It's sportsmen like this old men tell stories about. We're luckily enough to see it live.JimClarkFan wrote:This Marquez guy is incredible because he is super fast, is a great racer and doesn't bottle it, and even more scarily he thinks his way through races. He doesn't have a weakness.
It isn't just the lean angle, though that is certainly part of what Marc has brought, it is what he does with the back wheel on corner entry and mid corner, and his ability to handle instability on that bike.kooleracer wrote:Marquez is good, but the Honda is also more comfortable achieving greater lean angles. Lorenzo has always been the guy with the most extreme lean angles. But know even Pedrosa has higher lean angles. But you have to say that Marquez is in a league of his own at the moment. I would love to see Jorge go to Honda so we can who is better. But i would put my money on Marquez. Winning the championship in his rookie year just says everything about this kid. Good to see that Vale is back on his game, he could have finished 2 his race peace was better then Lorenzo that mistake cost him dear and his coming together with Bradl ruined his race completely.
He used the Hard rear, compared to Dani and Jorge who ran Medium. Harder tyres are only slower if you can't make them work. Not an issue for Marquez in the 40 degree track temp in Argentina.SGeorge wrote:Didnt Marquez have a harder tyre compound thoguh - so he was slower
You are wrong all used hard rear, Lorenzo and Dani medium front, Marquez and Rossi hard front.eniacon wrote:He used the Hard rear, compared to Dani and Jorge who ran Medium. Harder tyres are only slower if you can't make them work. Not an issue for Marquez in the 40 degree track temp in Argentina.SGeorge wrote:Didnt Marquez have a harder tyre compound thoguh - so he was slower
source http://www.bridgestonemotorsport.com/ch ... grand_prixThe warmer conditions resulted in all riders selecting the hardest rear slick option available; hard compound for Factory Yamaha and Honda riders, and medium compound for the Ducati and open-class entrants. Front tyre choice saw six of the twenty-three starters select the hard compound front slick, with the remaining seventeen riders selecting the medium compound front. Tyre performance throughout the race remained consistent, with Pedrosa setting the fastest lap time of the race on lap twenty-two.
What you are describing is Flat Track racing. Used by todays riders as training tool.JimClarkFan wrote:
things I have noticed:
-turn in; he uses the rear wheel to scrub off speed by throwing it out meaning he brakes later
-turn in; ny throwing the rear wheel out he turns the rear of the bike under braking making the corner shorter
-mid corner; he puts the power on and spins up the rear using the honda's great 'slip' and guides the bike by using the rear
-exit; with his rear wheel still a few inches out of line and pointing in actual he wants to exit, he straightens the front wheel and can more aggressively get on full power because the rear wheels are already in the direction he wants to go.
