No More Grid Girls - replaced by Grid Kids

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hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:55
santos wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:54
hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:49


What is their function?
Do they need to have one?
Yes, santos. I think women have a function other than being an object of desire...
There you go again telling everyone else what they are thinking.

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McHonda wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:51
... If they weren't introduced to attract men to the Sport then I'm struggling to understand why they were there in the first place. And if that was the aim then I understand wanting to broaden that appeal.
Probably should substitute them for some of those hot new swedish 5 axis CNC's. Hot!

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Restomaniac wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:55
have voted with my wallet as you put it. However I wouldn't want them banned because my opinion shouldn't effect others. A lesson you could maybe learn.

Oh BTW those women are not half naked. They are wearing no more or less than you will see being warn by women walking down the street in the middle of summer.


The irony is that the problem is with you. It's YOU who is connecting women wearing no less than what models wear with tittybars. It's YOU who is connecting women wearing what in any other walk would be summer clothes as being 'half naked'.
Right and I do not want to ban tittybars either. I am not against escort girls nor prostitution in general. I don't judge women that choose any of that. This is what some of you seem to fail to understand.

The problem I have is with using escort girls to sell me motor sport. That is degrading _against me_. "You are a man that likes motorsport. Quick: take a look at these tits." WTF?!
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Restomaniac wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:57
hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:55
santos wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:54

Do they need to have one?
Yes, santos. I think women have a function other than being an object of desire...
There you go again telling everyone else what they are thinking.
Do you see the "I think" at the beginning of that sentence? I highlighted it for you.

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AJI wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:58
McHonda wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:51
... If they weren't introduced to attract men to the Sport then I'm struggling to understand why they were there in the first place. And if that was the aim then I understand wanting to broaden that appeal.
Probably should substitute them for some of those hot new swedish 5 axis CNC's. Hot!
I fear they'll have celebs doing it.

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hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 13:00
Restomaniac wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:55
have voted with my wallet as you put it. However I wouldn't want them banned because my opinion shouldn't effect others. A lesson you could maybe learn.

Oh BTW those women are not half naked. They are wearing no more or less than you will see being warn by women walking down the street in the middle of summer.


The irony is that the problem is with you. It's YOU who is connecting women wearing no less than what models wear with tittybars. It's YOU who is connecting women wearing what in any other walk would be summer clothes as being 'half naked'.
Right and I do not want to ban tittybars either. I am not against escort girls nor prostitution in general. I don't judge women that choose any of that. This is what some of you seem to fail to understand.

The problem I have is with using escort girls to sell me motor sport. That is degrading _against me_. "You are a man that likes motorsport. Quick: take a look at these tits." WTF?!
You're doing it again. Why are you connecting women wearing clothes that wouldn't make anyone look twice on any street with escort girls? That's all on YOU, I think you many need to go and seek help.

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Let's be honest on here none of us really see them we are too busy looking at the cars and tugging off to new McLaren livery or redbull aero package

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hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 13:01
Restomaniac wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:57
hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:55


Yes, santos. I think women have a function other than being an object of desire...
There you go again telling everyone else what they are thinking.
Do you see the "I think" at the beginning of that sentence? I highlighted it for you.
Exactly, thus making out that others think differently.

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hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:43
If you cannot see that the women are there because of their looks and not any function at all, thus: their role is to be desired. As objects. I am _against_ this. So, of the guys bickering in here, on the one hand you have guys that _want_ to consume women as objects and you have me. I do not wish to see women as objects in this fashion here.
So we should ban or disallow pretty much any advertisements where attractive women (and men too) are used as "objects". Fashion magazines? Models? Those poor women. :roll:

Next, we should possibly ban sexy outfits too, period. What's the point, it just makes us (men) perceive them as objects. How dare we allow such a thing to happen!
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Phil wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 13:12
hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:43
If you cannot see that the women are there because of their looks and not any function at all, thus: their role is to be desired. As objects. I am _against_ this. So, of the guys bickering in here, on the one hand you have guys that _want_ to consume women as objects and you have me. I do not wish to see women as objects in this fashion here.
So we should ban or disallow pretty much any advertisements where attractive women (and men too) are used as "objects". Fashion magazines? Models? Those poor women. :roll:

Next, we should possibly ban sexy outfits too, period. What's the point, it just makes us (men) perceive them as objects. How dare we allow such a thing to happen!
Yes we should be nailing fashion houses to the Wall too. I mean if the grid girls outfits are now discribed as stuff escort girls wear then so are many outfits bought in the shops. How dare they be allowed to walk the streets in such a manner, have they no shame? Don't they realise that them not having a choice in the matter is being done for their own good in the name of equality?

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I spent my upvotes today on Hurril, glad to read on open minded and respectful opinion, even if others choose to disagree with that viewpoint.

We all like to see an elegant women (or at least I do) but if there was nothing wrong on why we see this in our world, where are the gridboys? Where is the boybeauty 2018 contest lower Missouri (starting with age class 4?) where are the thousands of stories of boys and young men being sexually intimidated or even being raped by succesfull businesswomen, entertainment stars, movie stars etc? (yes the catholic church goes some way to "rectify" that (but only because priest may not touch women, and are "devout" :-( ) Where is the first female president of the US that jokingly can state "grab em by the dick" and still remain in office?

Maybe we actually do still have a the problem of inequity between men and women and from that viewpoint it is not such a bad idea to do some symbolic action in one of the worlds largest sports/glamour shows (F1).

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Sieper wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 13:20
I spent my upvotes today on Hurril, glad to read on open minded and respectful opinion, even if others choose to disagree with that viewpoint.

We all like to see an elegant women (or at least I do) but if there was nothing wrong on why we see this in our world, where are the gridboys? Where is the boybeauty 2018 contest lower Missouri (starting with age class 4?) where are the thousands of stories of boys and young men being sexually intimidated or even being raped by succesfull businesswomen, entertainment stars, movie stars etc? (yes the catholic church goes some way to "rectify" that (but only because priest may not touch women, and are "devout" :-( ) Where is the first female president of the US that jokingly can state "grab em by the dick" and still remain in office?

Maybe we actually do still have a the problem of inequity between men and women and from that viewpoint it is not such a bad idea to do some symbolic action in one of the worlds largest sports/glamour shows (F1).
I would happily agree with the point about having men and women doing this job.

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hurril wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 13:00

The problem I have is with using escort girls to sell me motor sport. That is degrading _against me_. "You are a man that likes motorsport. Quick: take a look at these tits." WTF?!
Looks like you're the one with the problem if you insist on objectifying women to that degree. I've never thought of the Grid Girls in those terms at all. Do you have a problem with fashion models by any chance? Is that degrading against you too that an aesthetically pleasing person is gainfully employed doing something they have chosen to do?

The big problem with the liberal PC brigade is their willingness to project their own issues onto other people and to take offence where none was intended and even be offended for 3rd parties on their behalf. I take offence at the male chauvinism that removes the agency from women to choose whatever the --- they want to do for a job because some prurient snowflake may take offence.

I thought the Grid Girls/Boys were a bit of decoration that was largely pointless and boring job until I heard one interviewed and she thoroughly enjoyed doing the work and in her experience she was made to feel part of the team. In the lower formulas they're expected to know information about the drivers and the team, to engage with the public and act as part of the PR team. She did not sound like a number holding bimbo selling sex to car enthusiasts.

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santos wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:48
Go ask them if they feel like an object? Go ask to 3 girls that are friend of mine if they feel like an object when they make events like the grid girls do. They are not naked... the problem is in your head trying to compare the the grid girls to escort girls.
Yes 100% correct but you wont get that message through to a bunch of fools.

All modelling must now be banned
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bonjon1979 wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 12:51
Please, someone say it's so people in the crowd can know which car is which. They hold their boards facing towards the start line. Hardly anyone can see what's on the boards as they're viewed from the side. We all understand which car is which on the grid and the teams know where their cars line up.
like i said, I thought it was for the drivers to find their grid spots in the crowd of people.
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