2018 pre-season testing thread

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Video of the wheel coming off Alonso's car.

Spin was definitely caused by the wheel coming off.

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car sounds great though, and looks firmly planted - well, before the wheel said 'adios'.
might be a production flaw instead of a design flaw though.
they're probably analysing data whilst fixing the damage - if the damage is fixable right now.

interesting that gravel can have such huge damage impact on a car - i think we should take that into account when the next time a car hits the gravel and has trouble keeping up, or vise versa, when it hits gravel yet is able to still compete for podium.
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Squid wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:24
Video of the wheel coming off Alonso's car.

Spin was definitely caused by the wheel coming off.
Right before the last turn the wheel wobbles heavily then the spin and then it detaches :shock:

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Manoah2u wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:32
interesting that gravel can have such huge damage impact on a car - i think we should take that into account when the next time a car hits the gravel and has trouble keeping up, or vise versa, when it hits gravel yet is able to still compete for podium.
Well the gravel did some damage because the car lost the wheel. So the rear right side was bottoming heavily on the gravel.
If it was just a spin and off to the gravel or even a puncture with all wheels on , nothing would have happened probably.
Especially at that speed. He was on the S , he wasn't going that fast. And good for all that it happend there and not in some high speed corner.

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cliffgamerz wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:36
Squid wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:24
Video of the wheel coming off Alonso's car.

Spin was definitely caused by the wheel coming off.
Right before the last turn the wheel wobbles heavily then the spin and then it detaches :shock:
I think because the rear suspension (see picture on the MCL33 thread) had broken off. It has some complex curves, Fred, really pushing for the first time and , snap broken of.

(big) setback for McLaren I think (but likely anticipated) that is what testing is for.

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I think the wheel was already gone by the time he slid over the curbs, so that could well have torn stuff off too
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Sieper wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:47
cliffgamerz wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:36
Squid wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 12:24
Video of the wheel coming off Alonso's car.

Spin was definitely caused by the wheel coming off.
Right before the last turn the wheel wobbles heavily then the spin and then it detaches :shock:
I think because the rear suspension (see picture on the MCL33 thread) had broken off. It has some complex curves, Fred, really pushing for the first time and , snap broken of.

(big) setback for McLaren I think (but likely anticipated) that is what testing is for.
not at all. you can see that when he corners right, the tire(wheel) moves further outward and outward, obviously theres gonna be a wobble by then but that still was the wheel. if there's any suspension damage then that's due to the forces of the wheel coming off, not vise versa.

simple as a wheelnut giving up for whatever reason. as i mentioned, it can be -outside of something simple as badly mounted- a production error over an actual design flaw.
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Once the wheel is gone there are not many forces pushing on the upper rear wishbone. I think it is likely it shearing of was the cause of this crash. Now, if McLaren anticipated this to happen or not (and bringing stronger rear suspension arms) now remains to be seen. I think it is likely they feared this happening already and have parts ready.

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While McLaren is dealing with its problems, now Honda powered STR is leading the lap count with 38 laps on board

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cliffgamerz wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:00
While McLaren is dealing with its problems, now Honda powered STR is leading the lap count with 38 laps on board
40 now. Same amount Honda PU did for entire first day last year.

And wasn't that 2 Honda PUs last year. Jesus that real was awful.

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Damn that's tight...
Image

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Alonso did tried instinctively to save the corner briefly, he tries to correct it and save it for one second while the wheel inst completely off, before he spins.
He lost completely the wheel during the spin.

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1158 wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:03
cliffgamerz wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:00
While McLaren is dealing with its problems, now Honda powered STR is leading the lap count with 38 laps on board
40 now. Same amount Honda PU did for entire first day last year.

And wasn't that 2 Honda PUs last year. Jesus that real was awful.
The irony :roll:

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Gerhardsa wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:05
Damn that's tight...
https://images.scribblelive.com/2018/2/ ... a8_800.jpg
is it, really?

i honestly feel like where on the left hand side where the sidepod/engine cover says 'bull' it's a tad 'chubby'. like it has love handles. i would need to see a decent amount of comparison shots from the same angle for the other teams to judge on whether it's really 'that' tight.
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"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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jonas_linder wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:12
1158 wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:03
cliffgamerz wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 13:00
While McLaren is dealing with its problems, now Honda powered STR is leading the lap count with 38 laps on board
40 now. Same amount Honda PU did for entire first day last year.

And wasn't that 2 Honda PUs last year. Jesus that real was awful.
The irony :roll:
I'm starting to wonder if Fred is the problem. Bad luck follows him around like a puppy.