2018 Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal June 8-10

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The FIA has added a third DRS zone to the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve for this weekend’s Canadian Grand Prix.

I'm all for spicing thing up but Montreal is not a circuit that needs any spicing and is not what anyone would call a difficult circuit to overtake on. This is a laughable IMO.
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TAG wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 18:57
The FIA has added a third DRS zone to the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve for this weekend’s Canadian Grand Prix.

I'm all for spicing thing up but Montreal is not a circuit that needs any spicing and is not what anyone would call a difficult circuit to overtake on. This is a laughable IMO.
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TAG wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 18:57
The FIA has added a third DRS zone to the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve for this weekend’s Canadian Grand Prix.

I'm all for spicing thing up but Montreal is not a circuit that needs any spicing and is not what anyone would call a difficult circuit to overtake on. This is a laughable IMO.
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I don't see nothing about a 3rd DRS zone… even on the oficial site.

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It can only be between 7 and 8 or between 9 and 10. Nowhere else is straight or long enough!

DRS on approach to the hairpin at 10 has its appeals. Who goes for the absolutely latest braking and hope that the DRS closes and tames the back end quickly enough? Be a case of closing DRS with the button before doing a dive bomb braking job up the inside. Could get messy.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 19:20
It can only be between 7 and 8 or between 9 and 10. Nowhere else is straight or long enough!

DRS on approach to the hairpin at 10 has its appeals. Who goes for the absolutely latest braking and hope that the DRS closes and tames the back end quickly enough? Be a case of closing DRS with the button before doing a dive bomb braking job up the inside. Could get messy.
If i were to place a third it would be were the track bends right after turn 7. Although I’m not sure a low downforce rear wing would be pleasurable when a car is constantly in a turn.

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The new zone is in addition to the two existing zones which run from turns 12 to 13 and along the pit straight. These are triggered by the same detection point at the exit of turn nine. Is all I got, I'm looking for the official map now which is said to show it.

I can't imagine it being anywhere other than either after turn 7 or 9.

EDIT: still no map but it's between 7 and 8.
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That is the whole circuit :) Which I am okay with hahahaaa.

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TAG wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 19:29
The new zone is in addition to the two existing zones which run from turns 12 to 13 and along the pit straight. These are triggered by the same detection point at the exit of turn nine. Is all I got, I'm looking for the official map now which is said to show it.

I can't imagine it being anywhere other than either after turn 7 or 9.

EDIT: still no map but it's between 7 and 8.
On the part where the track bends right then.

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It's no worse a bend than either of the other two DRS zones have. It's quite short but I guess the idea is to help close a little before the chicane and then run down to the hairpin at 10. That might work.
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dans79 wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 18:42
LM10 wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 17:57
I noticed the occasional snap oversteer more than understeer, hence thought Mercedes was more of an oversteery car. But maybe or probably I'm mistaken. :)
check out this side by side from Bahrain. pay close attention to turns 1,4,13,& 4. Leiws is particularly bad through turns 1 & 4, really missing the apexes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUE2QAIjiZA

In my personal opinion, this is because Mercedes still hasn't completely solved the 2018 Pirelli heating/managment puzzle, and to be fair no team has as far as i'm concerned.

Canada usually isn't a track where teams have tire heating or cooling issues. The big issue in Canada is usually about not cooking the brakes.
I agree that tyre management/understanding has been playing a big role in this season so far. And this indeed might show the performance or characteristics of a car differently.

Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 19:20
It can only be between 7 and 8 or between 9 and 10. Nowhere else is straight or long enough!

DRS on approach to the hairpin at 10 has its appeals. Who goes for the absolutely latest braking and hope that the DRS closes and tames the back end quickly enough? Be a case of closing DRS with the button before doing a dive bomb braking job up the inside. Could get messy.
Ricciardo? :)

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Alan Baldwin reporting that Danny's K isn't salvagable according to Newey. 10-place pen then.

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dans79 wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 18:42
LM10 wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 17:57
I noticed the occasional snap oversteer more than understeer, hence thought Mercedes was more of an oversteery car. But maybe or probably I'm mistaken. :)
check out this side by side from Bahrain. pay close attention to turns 1,4,13,& 4. Leiws is particularly bad through turns 1 & 4, really missing the apexes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUE2QAIjiZA

In my personal opinion, this is because Mercedes still hasn't completely solved the 2018 Pirelli heating/managment puzzle, and to be fair no team has as far as i'm concerned.

Canada usually isn't a track where teams have tire heating or cooling issues. The big issue in Canada is usually about not cooking the brakes.
The rears take a pounding, you are always on the edge of rear traction coming out of each corner.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 21:10
It's no worse a bend than either of the other two DRS zones have. It's quite short but I guess the idea is to help close a little before the chicane and then run down to the hairpin at 10. That might work.
The other 2 are straighter. As for your second point I agree.

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Dave P Fanclub wrote:
04 Jun 2018, 21:50
Alan Baldwin reporting that Danny's K isn't salvagable according to Newey. 10-place pen then.
Hardly surprising. I imagine it’s not supposed to keep being ‘plumbed into’ the system when it’s stopped working even if it is bypassed.