2022 Aerodynamic Regulations Thread

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Apart from the outwash, does the raising of the floor edge not also make the wake worse?

Higher edge = less sealing = more air being sucked in and processed by the diffuser = more air being affected by the car = bigger wake / worse following?

Of course this is not all 1:1, but as a general trend

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TimW wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:57 am
Apart from the outwash, does the raising of the floor edge not also make the wake worse?

Higher edge = less sealing = more air being sucked in and processed by the diffuser = more air being affected by the car = bigger wake / worse following?

Of course this is not all 1:1, but as a general trend
No.
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vorticism wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:27 pm
The floor edge was raised for this year as you all know. +15mm iirc. That's about how tall the ice skate was. I read discussion of this rule change being directed at Merc, at Ferrari. Wasn't it more directed at RB to get rid of the ice skate? Considering the dimension involved.
I dunno, in any case the ice skate is gone.

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I've been looking at the aperture regulations (3.7.6) and I'm a bit confused. The regs define the maximum area of these apertures (e.g. 150,000mm^2 per side of the car for the sidepod cooling apertures) but the regs don't seem to say what plane this is measured in.

Does anyone know how these are measured? Is it in a specific plane? Or maybe defined when viewed normal to the surface?

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MIKEY_! wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:03 am
I've been looking at the aperture regulations (3.7.6) and I'm a bit confused. The regs define the maximum area of these apertures (e.g. 150,000mm^2 per side of the car for the sidepod cooling apertures) but the regs don't seem to say what plane this is measured in.

Does anyone know how these are measured? Is it in a specific plane? Or maybe defined when viewed normal to the surface?
All areas mentioned in this Article will be measured on the untrimmed Rear Bodywork
surface.
This is at the end of Article 3.7.6 but I agree with you that this can be rather ambiguous depending on how the surfaces are created in the CAD model.

Looking at the Ferrari, these apertures tend to be planar:

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AR3-GP wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:50 pm
All areas mentioned in this Article will be measured on the untrimmed Rear Bodywork
surface.
This is at the end of Article 3.7.6 but I agree with you that this can be rather ambiguous depending on how the surfaces are created in the CAD model.

Looking at the Ferrari, these apertures tend to be planar:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fo7TD2lWcAI ... ame=medium
I'm not sure I fully understand. Do you mean planar to the bodywork surface before the apertures are defined? Does that mean they define the sidepod surface, and then define the 2D area on that surface where they want to circumvent the minimum radius rules?

I must be missing something, because some of these louvres areas look a lot bigger than 150,000mm^2 (about 387mm x 387mm), especially last year's sauber.

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MIKEY_! wrote:
Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:54 am
AR3-GP wrote:
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:50 pm
All areas mentioned in this Article will be measured on the untrimmed Rear Bodywork
surface.
This is at the end of Article 3.7.6 but I agree with you that this can be rather ambiguous depending on how the surfaces are created in the CAD model.

Looking at the Ferrari, these apertures tend to be planar:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fo7TD2lWcAI ... ame=medium
I'm not sure I fully understand. Do you mean planar to the bodywork surface before the apertures are defined? Does that mean they define the sidepod surface, and then define the 2D area on that surface where they want to circumvent the minimum radius rules?

I must be missing something, because some of these louvres areas look a lot bigger than 150,000mm^2 (about 387mm x 387mm), especially last year's sauber.
I thought I replied at some point, but article 3.7.1 to 3.7.5 require you to draw a closed, untrimmed, rear bodywork surface. So basically what you said in your post here is correct:
Does that mean they define the sidepod surface, and then define the 2D area on that surface where they want to circumvent the minimum radius rules?
Only then are these louver cut outs permitted and the surface area attributed to them is simply the measurement from the CAD model. To make the cut outs in CAD, they are probably using 2D extrusions to intersect the side pod. Then this interior intersection area is the area which is regulated.

I was incorrect previously. These are not planar surfaces. The surface is the untrimmed bodywork which contains curvature.