2019 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 15-17 November

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Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 15-17 November

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So much for the FIA's black and white flag and letting drivers race. I just feel for Sainz not getting the chance to celebrate on the podium.

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Capharol wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:58 pm
Hamilton 5s timepenalty.... Sainz 3rd
https://i.imgur.com/mKlbJm1.png
I'm not bothered by the 5sec, championship over, just bothered by the fact its clear racing incident. If Ham had at least his front wing alongside, Albon has to leave enough room for both of them. Albon admits he knew lewis had dived and he couldn't tell how close he was he was just turning until he felt contact.

Not even Horner blamed Hamilton, at that's saying something

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matt_b wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 pm
So much for the FIA's black and white flag and letting drivers race. I just feel for Sainz not getting the chance to celebrate on the podium.
Well and that I guess!

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Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:45 pm
El Scorchio wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:40 pm
Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:33 pm


He did so because Lewis had a terrible restart. Saying that it was just a matter of time, he would have passed Lewis with ease at some other point.
It was only a terrible restart because of the relative disparity performance of the cars at that point of the race. He was going to get overtaken by whoever was behind him.
OK whatever you say, I personally think it was poor as he let Max get a perfect run on him. Like I said though it didn't really change anything as Lewis wouldn't have had the pace to hold him off anyway.
If you put Hamilton in the Red Bull and Verstappen in the Mercedes in that same situation, you get the exact same result of a Red Bull slipstreaming and breezing past a Mercedes easy as you like. The driver in front has no chance of defending the position, whether anyone think it was poor or otherwise.

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matt_b wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 pm
So much for the FIA's black and white flag and letting drivers race. I just feel for Sainz not getting the chance to celebrate on the podium.
He is lucky he got a podium. So he shouldn't be too bothered.

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Capharol wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:58 pm
Hamilton 5s timepenalty.... Sainz 3rd
https://i.imgur.com/mKlbJm1.png
Wow! Why don't they give black and white flag? Aren't they allowing for hard racing?

And why was Kubica given 5 sec penalty when they were gonna give the team thr penalty

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dans79 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:59 pm
Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:58 pm
How did Hamilton end up with no battery when Verstappen passed him the first time? I felt like Lewis fell asleep there and could have defended better after doing all the hard work.
Maximum deployment on his out lap.
He came out a fair distance ahead of Max, surprised to see Max pass him so quick. Leclerc didn't help matters but I still think Lewis defended poorly, if you're going to do the last minute block at least ensure you actually block the passing drivers path.

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Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:07 pm
dans79 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:59 pm
Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:58 pm
How did Hamilton end up with no battery when Verstappen passed him the first time? I felt like Lewis fell asleep there and could have defended better after doing all the hard work.
Maximum deployment on his out lap.
He came out a fair distance ahead of Max, surprised to see Max pass him so quick. Leclerc didn't help matters but I still think Lewis defended poorly, if you're going to do the last minute block at least ensure you actually block the passing drivers path.
Yup leclerc defended heavily on Lewis but let pass max so easily in the final corner

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siskue2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:53 pm
214270 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:48 pm
LEC doesn’t seem like a clean driver, I didn’t like that chop on NOR; I’m glad in a way he got a taste of his own medicine.
Yup, Leclerc had a taste of his own medicine... he could have given some more room when Vettel passed him, he kept very very close to the road end when Vettel passed him on the right and that annoyed Vettel and made him move to left so that he can bully his teammate... and that made them touch.
I feel Leclerc was defending a bit close to the edge against Bottas as well earlier in the race. Bottas definitely needs to grow a pair in those situations sometimes, but Leclerc wasn't really driving super clean.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:06 pm
matt_b wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 pm
So much for the FIA's black and white flag and letting drivers race. I just feel for Sainz not getting the chance to celebrate on the podium.
He is lucky he got a podium. So he shouldn't be too bothered.
Well, it is not his fault for stupidity at Ferrari, Hamilton/Albon incident and Mercedes failure of Bottas. He drove the best he could, giving his everything on old tyres which were peeling off allready at the sides.

If he stays classified 3rd, he deserved celebration on the podium and so did the team after their rise this year.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Chris Medland‏ @ChrisMedlandF1 26s27 seconds ago

So have been told about Sainz using DRS illegally by two sources and an investigation, but no official summons yet because FIA are currently dealing with Vettel and Leclerc who were summoned to appear "immediately" #F1#BrazilianGP

So it could be Kimi on podium

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It is like nobody wants the podium place :lol:
#AeroFrodo

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siskue2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:09 pm
Wass85 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:07 pm
dans79 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:59 pm


Maximum deployment on his out lap.
He came out a fair distance ahead of Max, surprised to see Max pass him so quick. Leclerc didn't help matters but I still think Lewis defended poorly, if you're going to do the last minute block at least ensure you actually block the passing drivers path.
Yup leclerc defended heavily on Lewis but let pass max so easily in the final corner
Leclerc comprised his last few corners with Max after defending against Lewis. Lewis though should have fully closed the door on Max instead of making a half hearted attempt.

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Capharol wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:58 pm
Hamilton 5s timepenalty.... Sainz 3rd
https://i.imgur.com/mKlbJm1.png
Waiting for a black flag and 4 race ban for vettel after he again takes a car out on purpose , oh no he is driving for ferrari now so dont touch him

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proteus wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:10 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:06 pm
matt_b wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 pm
So much for the FIA's black and white flag and letting drivers race. I just feel for Sainz not getting the chance to celebrate on the podium.
He is lucky he got a podium. So he shouldn't be too bothered.
Well, it is not his fault for stupidity at Ferrari, Hamilton/Albon incident and Mercedes failure of Bottas. He drove the best he could, giving his everything on old tyres which were peeling off allready at the sides.

If he stays classified 3rd, he deserved celebration on the podium and so did the team after their rise this year.
Yip, he did all he could, the rest was in the lap of the gods, and it has to come your way sometimes. Well done
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