2020 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 3-5 July

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f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
Question: different tyre construction next weekend? I thought I read that
I think that sort of compound split is only for Silverstone.

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I wonder if Bottas will be villefied like Hamilton was for doing the same thing during the final race of 2016...

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I can accept the grid penalty albeit it should have been clear a lot earlier.

But this penalty is hot garbage.

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Wynters wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:05
f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
Question: different tyre construction next weekend? I thought I read that
I think that sort of compound split is only for Silverstone.
That’s a shame - one step softer would be an interesting twist

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214270 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:56
DChemTech wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:53
Wynters wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:51
He did. They made contact before albon reached the edge of the track. Besides, as Verstappen showed last year, if you are on the inside, the corner is yours, right?
If you are ahead. Verstappen was ahead, and so was albon.
Albon wasn’t ahead. Lewis was well into the turn before Albon appeared on the outside
At the moment of collision, albon was ahead and keeping it on the track.

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f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:06
Wynters wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:05
f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
Question: different tyre construction next weekend? I thought I read that
I think that sort of compound split is only for Silverstone.
That’s a shame - one step softer would be an interesting twist
Agreed. I'm looking forward to Silverstone and seeing how it plays out. In a way, they've already done FP1-FP3 for both races.

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Wynters wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
RZS10 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:03
An absolute joke of a strategy by Mercedes, same goes for the penalty.
Safety Car strategy has probably been their one consistent weak point over the last few seasons. It's interesting that they haven't managed to address it.
They are poor at any kind of strategy. They are reactive and often caught out by changes in circumstances.

Red Bull are the masters of strategy in F1. Opportunistic, brave and clever.

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Wynters wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
RZS10 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:03
An absolute joke of a strategy by Mercedes, same goes for the penalty.
Safety Car strategy has probably been their one consistent weak point over the last few seasons. It's interesting that they haven't managed to address it.
I think they were just caught out by their own arrogance.

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DChemTech wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:06
214270 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:56
DChemTech wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:53


If you are ahead. Verstappen was ahead, and so was albon.
Albon wasn’t ahead. Lewis was well into the turn before Albon appeared on the outside
At the moment of collision, albon was ahead and keeping it on the track.
Ah! Now he's only 'ahead at the moment of collision'. So you agree Verstappen deserved a 5-second penalty last year, and Norris this year too?

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Is it me or did Bottas intentionally cost his main rival some points by not going faster? Zero doubt in my mind that’s what Senna or Schumacher would have done, so good for him if he’s finally getting some killer instinct

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Unf wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:03
Nice handicap for Ham. Is he no more untouchable? Now we are going to see how strong his mentality is...
Time will tell, but if he wins the championship are you going to be mentally strong enough to congratulate him?

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Restomaniac wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:04
NathanOlder wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:00
dans79 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 16:55
There will be war at Mercedes now, I get the distinct feeling Bottas was intentionally trying to slow Lews down the last 2 or 3 laps.
Would Bottas have even known ?
I’d be amazed if Bottas was informed. It would mean that he has 5 seconds in his pocket and that if Hamilton came hard he could take no risks.
He must have been. Suddenly both Mercedes were upping their pace after that last safety car?
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El Scorchio wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:07
Red Bull are the masters of strategy in F1. Opportunistic, brave and clever.
I tend to see Red Bull as always rolling the dice rather than being clever. If it works, they win. If it doesn't work, they finish 4th-5th, just like they would've normally. It's a clever thing to do, but it's not clever strategy on the day, as it were.

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f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:08
Is it me or did Bottas intentionally cost his main rival some points by not going faster? Zero doubt in my mind that’s what Senna or Schumacher would have done, so good for him if he’s finally getting some killer instinct
The thing is if he wasn't told to let him pass you can't really expect him to do it by his own right?
So Mercedes should go ahead and say whether there was an order in place or not.
My bet is there wasn't. Braindead tactics.

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f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2020, 17:08
Is it me or did Bottas intentionally cost his main rival some points by not going faster? Zero doubt in my mind that’s what Senna or Schumacher would have done, so good for him if he’s finally getting some killer instinct
In the second last lap Bottas was 2 seconds slower than Lewis, So i think Bottas knew about it and backed off massively which caught out Lewis