2021 AMG Mercedes F1 Team

[Marty_Y]

[Marty_Y]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-s ... l/6969003/

The steering wheel changes Mercedes prepared for Russell
By:
Matt Somerfield
Co-author:
Giorgio Piola
Dec 23, 2021, 3:06 PM

[_cerber1]

Fans of games with photoshop can look for something here.

[Morteza]

[SiLo]

https://youtu.be/BwuHWTqHWN4

jesus, I can only assume the camera didn't adjust well to the light because a few times I felt the driver would plow into a wall because he couldnt see anything!

[PlatinumZealot]

I was impressed with how much rake the car ended up with even though the changes were minimal to the aero package. Top effort from the engineers and designers. I imagine they might have learned a lot this year that is applicable to all future years because it was such a deep dive experiment on learning the car.

It's an illusion created by the cut floor. The Mercedes rake didn't change much, it actually operates very flat at full load and probably even more so. The entire field of of flow structures would need to be redone from scratch if the original rake adjustment range was changed. And such a mid-season change would be suicide financially and performance wise. What I think Mercedes did is make the vortices around the floor tighter by fiddling with the front wing and the little floor fences.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... hlYpr.html

[mclaren_mircea]

https://www.motorsport.com/formula-e/ne ... t/6978237/

What does it mean ,,last dance" with the combustion engine? Please stop Agag. Mercedes is not leaving F1. Audi and Porche are coming to F1 and are leaving Formula E too. They know something better than us that Formula E is dead. Despite combustion engine, after 2026 F1 will increase too the electrical power. And I think F1 will offer much more to play on the electrical side than FE despite not beeing full electric. The elite motorsport activities are all of them going towards electrification and sustenability. I would understant Agag if F1 would have gone on what Horner and Marko were advocating. Beeing a dinosaur motorsport series fi V10 burning fuel, but it is not the case. Formula 1 future is bright.

[SiLo]

I was impressed with how much rake the car ended up with even though the changes were minimal to the aero package. Top effort from the engineers and designers. I imagine they might have learned a lot this year that is applicable to all future years because it was such a deep dive experiment on learning the car.

It's an illusion created by the cut floor. The Mercedes rake didn't change much, it actually operates very flat at full load and probably even more so. The entire field of of flow structures would need to be redone from scratch if the original rake adjustment range was changed. And such a mid-season change would be suicide financially and performance wise. What I think Mercedes did is make the vortices around the floor tighter by fiddling with the front wing and the little floor fences.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... hlYpr.html

The pictures of the car on track tell a very different story than an article from April.

[Marty_Y]

https://the-race.com/formula-1/just-how ... n-f1-2021/

Dec 25 2021
By Edd Straw

Interesting article, not sure if I agree with everything but still worth reading.

[PlatinumZealot]

I was impressed with how much rake the car ended up with even though the changes were minimal to the aero package. Top effort from the engineers and designers. I imagine they might have learned a lot this year that is applicable to all future years because it was such a deep dive experiment on learning the car.

It's an illusion created by the cut floor. The Mercedes rake didn't change much, it actually operates very flat at full load and probably even more so. The entire field of of flow structures would need to be redone from scratch if the original rake adjustment range was changed. And such a mid-season change would be suicide financially and performance wise. What I think Mercedes did is make the vortices around the floor tighter by fiddling with the front wing and the little floor fences.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... hlYpr.html

The pictures of the car on track tell a very different story than an article from April.

Are you suggesting that the teams just change the rake mid-season then? Very serious claim there after the message from the team engineers that I posted.

A mix of static and rolling images are below...

2021



2021


2020




2020


2020

[SiLo]

It's an illusion created by the cut floor. The Mercedes rake didn't change much, it actually operates very flat at full load and probably even more so. The entire field of of flow structures would need to be redone from scratch if the original rake adjustment range was changed. And such a mid-season change would be suicide financially and performance wise. What I think Mercedes did is make the vortices around the floor tighter by fiddling with the front wing and the little floor fences.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... hlYpr.html

The pictures of the car on track tell a very different story than an article from April.

Are you suggesting that the teams just change the rake mid-season then? Very serious claim there after the message from the team engineers that I posted.

A mix of static and rolling images are below...

2021

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... -w12-1.jpg

2021
https://www.diecastlegends.com/Images/P ... 2044_1.jpg

2020

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ped%29.jpg


2020
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... f1-w11.jpg

2020
https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Custom.jpg

I've searched for some pictures and its hard to find the right ones, but what it looks like to me is that they ran more rake, but the trick suspension flattened the car more at speed than previously.

I'm struggling to find better pictures that are static from testing vs end of season.

[PlatinumZealot]

The pictures of the car on track tell a very different story than an article from April.

Are you suggesting that the teams just change the rake mid-season then? Very serious claim there after the message from the team engineers that I posted.

A mix of static and rolling images are below...

2021

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... -w12-1.jpg

2021
https://www.diecastlegends.com/Images/P ... 2044_1.jpg

2020

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ped%29.jpg


2020
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... f1-w11.jpg

2020
https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Custom.jpg

I've searched for some pictures and its hard to find the right ones, but what it looks like to me is that they ran more rake, but the trick suspension flattened the car more at speed than previously.

I'm struggling to find better pictures that are static from testing vs end of season.

You can compare the distance between the top of the diffuser to the bottom of the crash structure between the 2020 and 2021 cars.
The distance is virtually the same suggesting the rake hasn't changed.

[mclaren_mircea]

<...> I just watched numbers in the drivers and constructors championships since the begining of F1. Ferrari is untouchable on both sides but I just couldnt belive what we can see below Ferrari. Mercedes has the same numbers of WCC championships as Mclaren despite the fact that Mclaren won the first one in 1974 and Mercedes in 2014. For Gods sake... there are 40 years between them, and Mclaren too had periods of dominance in their history or when at least seasons when they had the better car. It is an awsome achievment by Mercedes to swallow in ten years what Mclaren did in 50 years. I can just congratule Mercedes Amg f1 and all the team in Brackley and Brixworth for these numbers. If they get the car right for next year they definately have a real shoot on the Ferrari records.

[Big Tea]

Rumours of a Tesla tie up with Merc. I wonder if this will have an impact on the F1 side?
Nothing solid on this though, just hearsay

[Mchamilton]

Are you suggesting that the teams just change the rake mid-season then? Very serious claim there after the message from the team engineers that I posted.

A mix of static and rolling images are below...

2021

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... -w12-1.jpg

2021
https://www.diecastlegends.com/Images/P ... 2044_1.jpg

2020

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ped%29.jpg


2020
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... f1-w11.jpg

2020
https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Custom.jpg

I've searched for some pictures and its hard to find the right ones, but what it looks like to me is that they ran more rake, but the trick suspension flattened the car more at speed than previously.

I'm struggling to find better pictures that are static from testing vs end of season.

You can compare the distance between the top of the diffuser to the bottom of the crash structure between the 2020 and 2021 cars.
The distance is virtually the same suggesting the rake hasn't changed.

Why would the distance between those 2 parts of the bodywork change if the rake were changed?