Mercedes W12

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atanatizante
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As dans79 spotted, seems that both drivers tested in FP1 different rear wing configurations, BOT`s with a shallower DRS flap and a bigger curvature in the middle of the main plain, thus he could get a higher top speed than HAM ... or probably he was in a higher engine mode :D ...

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Scarbs posted these on twitter. I don't think I've ever seen the pedals of a modern F1 car in this detail before, very interesting!

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_cerber1 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:36 pm
In the right photo is the car pre-Silverstone upgrade, based on the vertical bargeboard/vane near the mirror ...
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atanatizante wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:59 pm
http://postimg.cc/62JsNrYz
Screen could do with a bit of a polish!

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This years rules killed this car. Anyone who says something different is cueless.
Merc have no chance, token system didn't help, cost cap didn't help, low rake didn't help, mistakes didn't help.
And still RB barely can win it. Joke.

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Jozsusz wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:39 pm
This years rules killed this car. Anyone who says something different is cueless.
Merc have no chance, token system didn't help, cost cap didn't help, low rake didn't help, mistakes didn't help.
And still RB barely can win it. Joke.
Indeed. RB/Honda is not fast, Mercedes slow due to rule change....

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:33 am
Jozsusz wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:39 pm
This years rules killed this car. Anyone who says something different is cueless.
Merc have no chance, token system didn't help, cost cap didn't help, low rake didn't help, mistakes didn't help.
And still RB barely can win it. Joke.
Indeed. RB/Honda is not fast, Mercedes slow due to rule change....
Yep. They're still where they were last year. Didn't progress at all. Merc went backwards.

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DAs wheel movements? Explain this: https://streamja.com/zPZAM

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pantherxxx wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:04 pm
DAs wheel movements? Explain this: https://streamja.com/zPZAM
This looks to be more like the column bending downwards due to braking forces. It is also not new (see his 2018 lap):



It shows up under braking so I would guess It's him putting some weight on the wheel under braking; he's pushing on the wheel so it is tilting downwards showing more of the column from the viewpoint of the camera above his head.

You can see the same thing on Max' car on 2019:


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Yep, optical illusion

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pantherxxx wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:04 pm
DAs wheel movements? Explain this: https://streamja.com/zPZAM
Hard braking, camera housing moving under 5g. prove me wrong.
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Are we sure its only breaking? Found this picture of quali lap analysis. The yellow arrow is the point of reference next to the 'teamview logo'. Seems to me that on the main straight (1st picture) the steering wheel is in a different position the from the exit of turn 3 (picture 3).....

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