2021 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi, Sep 24 - 26

[codetower]

Max' car had to go through the extended scrutineering for the second time this season out of 47 cars tested (Silverstone excluded as the document is not available) ... It's safe to say they did not check his wreck.
It's

8	Sainz
4	Alonso
3	Ricciardo
3	Vettel
3	Kimi
3	Gasly
3	Perez
3	Stroll
3	Yuki
2	Norris
2	Latifi
2	Leclerc
2	Ocon
2	Max
2	Russell
1	Lewis
1	Gio

10	Ferrari
6	Alpine
6	Aston
6	AT
5	McLaren
5	RBR
4	Alfa
4	Williams
1	Merc

The numbers for Max and RBR aren't out of the ordinary, if there's a team that is being singled out then it's Ferrari. Merc does stand out however, at least with the incomplete numbers.

The checks appear to be really random because it's sometimes one car and in Baku they checked 10 (!).

Afaik it always goes to the stewards when a car does not set a time but it's a formality and no sign of any protest from another team ... that particular issue was discussed earlier in the thread.

It's quite far fetched to believe it's some sort of Merc influence on the FIA

The FIA aren't fans of the Spaniards, eh?

[El Scorchio]

Max' car had to go through the extended scrutineering for the second time this season out of 47 cars tested (Silverstone excluded as the document is not available) ... It's safe to say they did not check his wreck.
It's

8	Sainz
4	Alonso
3	Ricciardo
3	Vettel
3	Kimi
3	Gasly
3	Perez
3	Stroll
3	Yuki
2	Norris
2	Latifi
2	Leclerc
2	Ocon
2	Max
2	Russell
1	Lewis
1	Gio

10	Ferrari
6	Alpine
6	Aston
6	AT
5	McLaren
5	RBR
4	Alfa
4	Williams
1	Merc

The numbers for Max and RBR aren't out of the ordinary, if there's a team that is being singled out then it's Ferrari. Merc does stand out however, at least with the incomplete numbers.

The checks appear to be really random because it's sometimes one car and in Baku they checked 10 (!).

Afaik it always goes to the stewards when a car does not set a time but it's a formality and no sign of any protest from another team ... that particular issue was discussed earlier in the thread.

It's quite far fetched to believe it's some sort of Merc influence on the FIA

People will believe what they want!

It is noticeable that Merc has only been checked once. (Cue more conspiracy...) I wonder if the checks are random and confidential, but predetermined before a race and they happened to be in races when Merc cars didn't finish?

To try and claim that Verstappen has been singled out is a bit laughable. As you say, it's Ferrari and Sainz who might want to feel hard done by, if anyone.

BUT, as long as everything is above board with the cars, no-one should have to worry, right?

[SiLo]

Sainz being checked twice as many times as anyone else is a bit suspect, but I guess if its completely randomised, it's easily plausible, that just how randomness works.

[El Scorchio]

Max' car had to go through the extended scrutineering for the second time this season out of 47 cars tested (Silverstone excluded as the document is not available) ... It's safe to say they did not check his wreck.
It's

8	Sainz
4	Alonso
3	Ricciardo
3	Vettel
3	Kimi
3	Gasly
3	Perez
3	Stroll
3	Yuki
2	Norris
2	Latifi
2	Leclerc
2	Ocon
2	Max
2	Russell
1	Lewis
1	Gio

10	Ferrari
6	Alpine
6	Aston
6	AT
5	McLaren
5	RBR
4	Alfa
4	Williams
1	Merc

The numbers for Max and RBR aren't out of the ordinary, if there's a team that is being singled out then it's Ferrari. Merc does stand out however, at least with the incomplete numbers.

The checks appear to be really random because it's sometimes one car and in Baku they checked 10 (!).

Afaik it always goes to the stewards when a car does not set a time but it's a formality and no sign of any protest from another team ... that particular issue was discussed earlier in the thread.

It's quite far fetched to believe it's some sort of Merc influence on the FIA

The FIA aren't fans of the Spaniards, eh?

That's mad! 12/47. A quarter of the total number of inspections.

[codetower]

The FIA aren't fans of the Spaniards, eh?

That's mad! 12/47. A quarter of the total number of inspections.

It is! I wonder if this might be a part of the "undisclosed settlement" over the whole PU fiasco. One of the settlement points was that Ferrari agreed to extensive scrutinizing for the next year or two.

[El Scorchio]

The FIA aren't fans of the Spaniards, eh?

That's mad! 12/47. A quarter of the total number of inspections.

It is! I wonder if this might be a part of the "undisclosed settlement" over the whole PU fiasco. One of the settlement points was that Ferrari agreed to extensive scrutinizing for the next year or two.

That's interesting- I had no idea of that (or at least had forgotten it as a consequence of the ruling!)

Just also noticed that Haas hasn't been scrutineered at all yet.

[basti313]

Just also noticed that Haas hasn't been scrutineered at all yet.

Well I guess this is a bit like: "Should we check the Haas on the last position or just go get some drinks?"

Seems not to be that arbitrary.

[El Scorchio]

Just also noticed that Haas hasn't been scrutineered at all yet.

Well I guess this is a bit like: "Should we check the Haas on the last position or just go get some drinks?"

Seems not to be that arbitrary.

It's a fair point that they may be thinking 'why bother?' in the case of the Haas. But I hope that's not a reason to not be checking.

[dans79]

When you look as the teams, it looks close to a gaussian distribution. Almost everyone in the middle, and then extreme outliers on each side.

[RZS10]

+it's essentially last year's car anyways

It's strange that the document for the British GP isn't up though, i even tried creating a link myself ...
Race scrutineering Russia:
fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Russian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Race%20scrutineering.pdf
Initial for British GP
fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20British%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Initial%20Scrutineering.pdf
Combined link gives a 404
fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20British%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Race%20scrutineering.pdf

One could obviously take a deeper dive into the documents to compare how often they had to give fuel samples and which tests were actually done on which car, i'm sure it would even out a bit.

[DChemTech]

Just also noticed that Haas hasn't been scrutineered at all yet.

Well I guess this is a bit like: "Should we check the Haas on the last position or just go get some drinks?"

Seems not to be that arbitrary.

It's a fair point that they may be thinking 'why bother?' in the case of the Haas. But I hope that's not a reason to not be checking.

&Same for Bottas

[Big Tea]

That's mad! 12/47. A quarter of the total number of inspections.

It is! I wonder if this might be a part of the "undisclosed settlement" over the whole PU fiasco. One of the settlement points was that Ferrari agreed to extensive scrutinizing for the next year or two.

That's interesting- I had no idea of that (or at least had forgotten it as a consequence of the ruling!)

Just also noticed that Haas hasn't been scrutineered at all yet.

It did not get there

[El Scorchio]

Well I guess this is a bit like: "Should we check the Haas on the last position or just go get some drinks?"

Seems not to be that arbitrary.

It's a fair point that they may be thinking 'why bother?' in the case of the Haas. But I hope that's not a reason to not be checking.

&Same for Bottas

Indeed! Maybe from his driving of late (like the Haas) they've come to the conclusion it's just not worth bothering...

[Wouter]

Max' car had to go through the extended scrutineering for the second time this season out of 47 cars tested (Silverstone excluded as the document is not available) ... It's safe to say they did not check his wreck.
It's

8	Sainz
4	Alonso
3	Ricciardo
3	Vettel
3	Kimi
3	Gasly
3	Perez
3	Stroll
3	Yuki
2	Norris
2	Latifi
2	Leclerc
2	Ocon
2	Max
2	Russell
1	Lewis
1	Gio

10	Ferrari
6	Alpine
6	Aston
6	AT
5	McLaren
5	RBR
4	Alfa
4	Williams
1	Merc

The numbers for Max and RBR aren't out of the ordinary, if there's a team that is being singled out then it's Ferrari. Merc does stand out however, at least with the incomplete numbers.

The checks appear to be really random because it's sometimes one car and in Baku they checked 10 (!).

Afaik it always goes to the stewards when a car does not set a time but it's a formality and no sign of any protest from another team ... that particular issue was discussed earlier in the thread.

It's quite far fetched to believe it's some sort of Merc influence on the FIA

The FIA aren't fans of the Spaniards, eh?

The list you quote is wrong. All cars are checked on a number of points after almost every race. Haas's too.

What I was talking about was the extensive check of one of the top drivers 10 cars that takes place after each race.
Max's was checked after the Monaco GP and after the Dutch GP and now again.

Technical Delegate's Report

After the race of the Monaco GP car number 33 was randomly chosen among the top ten cars for
more extensive physical inspections.


Technical Delegate's Report

After the race of the Dutch Grand Prix, car number 33 was randomly chosen among the top ten cars
for more extensive physical inspections

[RZS10]

That list is for the extensive checks in the post race scrutineering. Which document are you quoting?

For example Monaco https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... eering.pdf

Car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05, 31, 55, 10 and 99 were checked for the following:
1) Bodywork around the front wheels
2) Front wing height and overhang
3) Rear wing height and overhang
4) Front and rear wing width
5) Rear wing configuration
6) Rear bodywork area
7) Rear winglet height
Skidblock thickness
9) Stepped bottom
10) Diffuser height
11) Diffuser area
12) Overall height
13) Overall width
The profile of the in Article 3.3.1 of the 2021 Formula One Technical Regulations prescribed front
wing section was checked on car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05, 31, 55, 10 and 99.
The minimum distance between the adjacent rear wing sections at any longitudinal vertical plane was
checked on car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05, 31, 55, 10 and 99.
It was confirmed for car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05, 31, 55, 10 and 99 that any vertical cross
section of bodywork normal to the car centre line and situated in the volumes defined in Article 3.5.7
form one tangent continuous curve on its external surface with a radius no less than 75mm.
The concave radius of sections of the two rear wing elements which are in contact with the external
air stream was checked on car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05, 31, 55, 10 and 99.
The front and rear brake air duct dimensions were checked on car numbers 44, 33, 11, 04, 18, 05,
31, 55, 10 and 99.

Ah alright, found them ... the naming of the pdf files is a bit inconsistent.
Bahrain -Bottas
Imola - Kimi
Portugal - Norris
Spain - Perez
Monaco - Verstappen
Baku - Alonso
France - Stroll
Styria - Tsunoda
Austria - Gasly
No document for England?
Hungary - Alonso 2nd time
No document for Belgium?
Netherlands - Max 2nd time
No document for Italy?
Russia supposedly Max 3rd

His car being checked again after this race must be from some news report, i guess.

It IS a grand conspiracy afterall ... or it's just how "random" out of 10 cars works. With all the other checks it evens out.