Alpine A522

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https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... 2022-baku/

Alpine is now stepping on the gas. The sidepods have been redesigned. Although they still run out in a ramp to the rear, they have been lengthened to the front. The cooling inlet moved around 15 centimeters towards the front wheels. This means that it is more exposed to the turbulence of the front wheels, but the solution promises significantly more downforce, according to the engineers. At least that's what the wind tunnel says. It should continue in this style. Alpine announces further upgrades for Montreal and Silverstone.

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RZS10 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 20:55
Blackout wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 14:09
[...] Can you compare the size of the old and new A522 sidepod intake ? [...]
Roughly 4 mirrors for both :lol: :-"

https://i.imgur.com/3G7FOr6.png

Joking aside both having a similar cross section would even make sense as they'd have to hit their cooling requirements i guess ....
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Lower element reminds me of RB's sinuous beam wing.

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organic wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 20:09
Lower element reminds me of RB's sinuous beam wing.
Only the lower element?

Anyways, the shape of the green and purple panels suggests Alpine might put higher AoA beam wings.
RB never put their top element as flat as this AFAIk
And I think Alpine's rear endplates are the only 'puzzly'/segmented ones. The other cars seems to have single element endplates.

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Blackout wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 16:29
organic wrote:
14 Jun 2022, 20:09
Lower element reminds me of RB's sinuous beam wing.
Only the lower element?

Anyways, the shape of the green and purple panels suggests Alpine might put higher AoA beam wings.
RB never put their top element as flat as this AFAIk
And I think Alpine's rear endplates are the only 'puzzly'/segmented ones. The other cars seems to have single element endplates.

https://i0.wp.com/cdn-9.motorsport.com/ ... eam--1.jpg
The higher AoA would probably align with the amount of rear wing. The lower beam wing aligns with the diffuser to help suction air out. The upper beam wing is use to push the air arch out to align the flow coming off the lower beam wing with the rear wing flow? Since they had such a small rear wing at baku the arch that the air made off the rear wing was more gradual than you'd see with a deep dish rear wing?

It's probably me, but your puzzle comments have left me perplexed. I don't understand what you're trying to write.

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You prefer Lego :?:

It's a lego RW so Alpine can test and race many wings/beams/endplates combinations in a cost affective way, by replacing just the blue part and/or the purple and green parts.

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As the pic above shows the rectangular inlet pretty much changes shape to the previous one within the sidepod to get under the SIP, so the not-very-scientific method was probably close enough:

RZS10 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 20:55
Blackout wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 14:09
[...] Can you compare the size of the old and new A522 sidepod intake ? [...]
Roughly 4 mirrors for both :lol: :-"

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Joking aside both having a similar cross section would even make sense as they'd have to hit their cooling requirements i guess ....

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As predicted in Baku, Alpine tilted the new beam wings & put them at a higher angle of attack 8)
These Alpine lego parts are v. useful. They can test & race many beam/endplates/wings combinations fast & cheaper.
So they tested the AUS RW with 2 or even 3 beam wing versions today

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Blackout wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 00:24
As predicted in Baku, Alpine tilted the new beam wings & put them at a higher angle of attack 8)
These Alpine lego parts are v. useful. They can test & race many beam/endplates/wings combinations fast & cheaper.
So they tested the AUS RW with 2 or even 3 beam wing versions today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfNHX2UYAs ... ame=medium
Nice stuff B!

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RZS10 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 20:55
Blackout wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 14:09
[...] Can you compare the size of the old and new A522 sidepod intake ? [...]
Roughly 4 mirrors for both :lol: :-"

https://i.imgur.com/3G7FOr6.png

Joking aside both having a similar cross section would even make sense as they'd have to hit their cooling requirements i guess ....
If Castrol made Mars bars…

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Blackout wrote:
16 Jun 2022, 11:20
You prefer Lego :?:

It's a lego RW so Alpine can test and race many wings/beams/endplates combinations in a cost affective way, by replacing just the blue part and/or the purple and green parts.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVW-ZSVWYAE ... name=large
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Some natural flowviz on the endplates, beam wing and diffuser
https://f1i.autojournal.fr/magazine/mag ... issements/
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