Aston Martin Racing has become the first team to show off a real 2022 Formula One car after Haas limited themselves to a rendering and Red Bull painted a show car to keep their secrets hidden.
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The two "kinks" could serve to energize the flow to prevent stalling of the diffusser and keep the flow attached while working the floor harder than possible without the kinks?
I was thinking it's to put the diffuser low pressure zone further forward to offset the lower front wing downforce from the higher wing centre
That would make sense if they are "double kinking". Ideally, you'd want as much of your floor downforce acting through the centre of mass of the car, wouldn't you? Then the wings become just trimming / extraction devices. Much less susceptible to understeering following another car that way.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.
The two "kinks" could serve to energize the flow to prevent stalling of the diffusser and keep the flow attached while working the floor harder than possible without the kinks?
I was thinking it's to put the diffuser low pressure zone further forward to offset the lower front wing downforce from the higher wing centre
That would make sense if they are "double kinking". Ideally, you'd want as much of your floor downforce acting through the centre of mass of the car, wouldn't you? Then the wings become just trimming / extraction devices. Much less susceptible to understeering following another car that way.
Yeah. Enrique Scalabroni said to me on twitter it could be for porpoising control.
#aerogandalf "There is one big friend. It is downforce. And once you have this it’s a big mate and it’s helping a lot." Robert Kubica
The car hasn’t even hit the track yet and the rumor mill is that Aston Martin isn’t very happy with the car and working on a very different one for mid season… It is coming from Franco Nugnes (who doesn’t have a reputation as the most reliable source) by Giorgio Piola (who actually does have a good reputation) agrees.
I was thinking it's to put the diffuser low pressure zone further forward to offset the lower front wing downforce from the higher wing centre
That would make sense if they are "double kinking". Ideally, you'd want as much of your floor downforce acting through the centre of mass of the car, wouldn't you? Then the wings become just trimming / extraction devices. Much less susceptible to understeering following another car that way.
Yeah. Enrique Scalabroni said to me on twitter it could be for porpoising control.
Well he'd be the kind of guy to have an idea about such things.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.
Looking straight down from above, you notice how little "coke bottle" shape the thing has.
It's interesting as on the one hand you don't want any bodywork at the back for diffuser purposes, but then you want the flanks big for the underbody downforce in that area. So you have to have a balance.
I will be interested to see how other cars handle that dichotomy.
These cars conceptually have taken us back to around 1980, 1981...which is kind of weird.
And damn...they are still such huge, heavy pigs!
Front directly above, yes there is little coke bottle. But from the front 3/4 view, you see a big under cut for the length of the sidepod. The coke bottle is just hidden from above.
Yes. The car is quite similar to those ""double floor"" cars* like the 2011 and 2012 STR or 2018 Williams... The sidepod internals are certainly raised.
"Ben, people are talking about the STR6 having a ’double-floor’ – what does that mean? BB: “We prefer to call them ‘extreme undercut sidepods’. It basically means we raise all the hardware that would normally be housed in the floor and sidepod area and clear a path to the rear of the car. It sounds easy but the installation has to change a lot in order to adopt the concept. The result is an uninterrupted pathway for the air to the rear of the car without having to go around the sidepods.” 2011 https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/en/ ... 20208.html
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
You can see the rad in some of the pictures sitting quite far back in the inlet…..
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
Very clever!
Is there anything in the rules preventing you from passing air directly through the sidepods, without going through a radiator, should you wish to do so? Would that be advantageous?
The McLaren MP4/26 springs to mind, but in a nice duct that vents out through the louvres.
However the Aston Martin's radiator inlets are rather small, so it doesn't seem like there is such a surplus of air flow...
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Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
Judging by the opening on the back, the louvers are a necessity, the radiators without the louvers would be too small to handle the heat.
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
Judging by the opening on the back, the louvers are a necessity, the radiators without the louvers would be too small to handle the heat.
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
You can see the rad in some of the pictures sitting quite far back in the inlet…..
Is it a rendered radiator or the louvres because the render is hollow?
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
Very clever!
Is there anything in the rules preventing you from passing air directly through the sidepods, without going through a radiator, should you wish to do so? Would that be advantageous?
The McLaren MP4/26 springs to mind, but in a nice duct that vents out through the louvres.
However the Aston Martin's radiator inlets are rather small, so it doesn't seem like there is such a surplus of air flow...
The outside “blocked” inlets look very much like blocked inlets to me. The radius or the green bodywork even looks like it’s a quite smooth inlet with a bit of carbon glued on to obscure it.
Wild idea, could the inner sidepod opening be without radiator and “feed” the louvres to do something with the airflow and the, now blocked, inlets next to it are the actual radiator inlets?
You can see the rad in some of the pictures sitting quite far back in the inlet…..
Is it a rendered radiator or the louvres because the render is hollow?
