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Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 11:13
FDD wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 14:13
Alberto Aimar said exactly the same about making a more streamline sidepod design, to eliminate the drag generated by the sidepods undercut which have strong outwash in a very short line, using a lot of energy generating more drag, as he said.
Great info, thanks for sharing. :)

Blackout wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 09:49
Repackaging should be easy, they have a lot of room and options... but what really stands in the way is the lower impact structure. Ferrari, like Mclaren (and Haas....) put it inside the sidepod (and forward, unlike Mclaren), whereas many teams put it inside the floor...
https://i.imgur.com/zLB9z7F.jpg
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Indeed, lower SIS needs to be redesigned, meaning chassis must be changed as well, but it's safe to assume all teams will have a new chassis next year. After all, there are floor edge and throat height changes coming and this will have a significant impact.
Slightly OT but relevant to the point of discussion. Alfa Romeo not necessarily going to bring a new chassis: https://www.planetf1.com/news/alfa-rome ... ssis-2023/

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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 15:31
Slightly OT but relevant to the point of discussion. Alfa Romeo not necessarily going to bring a new chassis: https://www.planetf1.com/news/alfa-rome ... ssis-2023/
I am wondering how they will be able to adapt to 2023 regulations with same chassis. For Alfa Romeo, in particular, the roll hoop will need to change. Not really a topic for this thread.

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matteosc wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 17:20
AR3-GP wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 15:31
Slightly OT but relevant to the point of discussion. Alfa Romeo not necessarily going to bring a new chassis: https://www.planetf1.com/news/alfa-rome ... ssis-2023/
I am wondering how they will be able to adapt to 2023 regulations with same chassis. For Alfa Romeo, in particular, the roll hoop will need to change. Not really a topic for this thread.
They don't need to continue with the same chassis for 2023..? I imagine they'll bring a new chassis design next season

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organic wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 17:22
matteosc wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 17:20
AR3-GP wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 15:31
Slightly OT but relevant to the point of discussion. Alfa Romeo not necessarily going to bring a new chassis: https://www.planetf1.com/news/alfa-rome ... ssis-2023/
I am wondering how they will be able to adapt to 2023 regulations with same chassis. For Alfa Romeo, in particular, the roll hoop will need to change. Not really a topic for this thread.
They don't need to continue with the same chassis for 2023..? I imagine they'll bring a new chassis design next season
That is what it is suggested in the link. I think they will all have to have new chassis or at least re-homologate old ones.

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As in Hungary, Ferrari are running a gurney flap on the front wing. Though not every wing brought has the gurney installed

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Nice view of the Ferrari diffuser

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organic wrote:
28 Oct 2022, 23:51
https://i.imgur.com/EVjzbjz.png

Nice view of the Ferrari diffuser
I don't see a diffuser anymore :wtf: :lol:

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Ferrari floor (Mexico). The image I've been looking for

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Compared to RB's looks primitive!

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They seem to have reverted to a continouous boat tail/plank area? The last picture in this thread featured one RB style serration

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Mexico is very grip limited due to the thin air. I would expect they could afford to run the older specification floor which likely had more peak downforce, without any threat of porpoising.

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Henk_v wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 14:15
They seem to have reverted to a continouous boat tail/plank area? The last picture in this thread featured one RB style serration
Yes the French GP they had already abandoned the stepped diffuser.

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Ice skate geometry has changed since France. That's the main underfloor change I can see. Nothing else seems that different:

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organic wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 14:47
https://i.imgur.com/eZ3QQ4g.png

Ice skate geometry has changed since France. That's the main underfloor change I can see. Nothing else seems that different:

https://i.imgur.com/VI5sskS.png
The inner strake is not under the nose anymore. Also the central section is slimmer, i think.

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Andi76 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 01:12
organic wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 14:47
https://i.imgur.com/eZ3QQ4g.png

Ice skate geometry has changed since France. That's the main underfloor change I can see. Nothing else seems that different:

https://i.imgur.com/VI5sskS.png
The inner strake is not under the nose anymore. Also the central section is slimmer, i think.
Yes the bump on the keel is not as pronounced now