McLaren MCL36

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you can tell how slim the SPods are because the SIPS has to bulge out a bit
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jjn9128 wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:14
Blackout wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:10
Oh! loopholes
VG generators to aid air extraction from upcoming louvers :?:
https://i.imgur.com/tIGlQpE.png
I predicted those ages ago 8)
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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:16
Pretty slim from the top… Sidepods are slimmer than Haas, but managing a similar amount of free floor space in the back:

https://i.imgur.com/toBfyWl.jpg
Packaging not as tight as the AM though?
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AeroDynamic wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:28
timbo wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:25
SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:16
Pretty slim from the top… Sidepods are slimmer than Haas, but managing a similar amount of free floor space in the back:

https://i.imgur.com/toBfyWl.jpg
Once again, looks shorter to me.
Look at the gap between the rear face of the top front wing planes to the front face of the front tyres. The gap between the Aston Martin wing and its front tyres is bigger than that of the McLaren. Maybe the nose is shorter? or.. the front wing is bigger in depth?
https://i.imgur.com/wnZrd7I.jpg
Since the distance between axles is fixed, if the front wing is closer to the front tires, the rear will be farther away (and vice versa)

(Not to scale):

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There's something different going on here:
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Rather than the tunnel entrance joining the body, it curves down... so what's happening at the splitter?

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Ground Effect wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:37
SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:16
Pretty slim from the top… Sidepods are slimmer than Haas, but managing a similar amount of free floor space in the back:

https://i.imgur.com/toBfyWl.jpg
Packaging not as tight as the AM though?
Depends on how you define tight? I believe is tighter overall (seems to have an smaller footprint overall)

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I suspect they have take some liberties in their render in that region.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:39
AeroDynamic wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:28
timbo wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:25


Once again, looks shorter to me.
Look at the gap between the rear face of the top front wing planes to the front face of the front tyres. The gap between the Aston Martin wing and its front tyres is bigger than that of the McLaren. Maybe the nose is shorter? or.. the front wing is bigger in depth?
https://i.imgur.com/wnZrd7I.jpg
Since the distance between axles is fixed, if the front wing is closer to the front tires, the rear will be farther away (and vice versa)

(Not to scale):

https://i.imgur.com/kKO8CMX.jpg
yeah, makes sense. The rear end looks more compact as the driver position is more rearward

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this whole area is confusing me

EDIT: Second glance the tray is SO thick. Dummy floor perhaps?
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yinlad wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:45
https://i.imgur.com/ALp0zy9.png

this whole area is confusing me
I wonder if there's a slot or opening back there. I'm guessing that counts as on of the 4 fences/strakes i.e. the outer one and this inner one. So they only have 2 more to play with.

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Aston Martin looks more refined so far.

James Key has a clean philosphy but it looks like his is not pushing the boundaries as hard as Andrew Green.

So far...

Push rod rear suggest they want to maximise the diffuer area.

Strakes hidden so they have something planned here. More likely some fiddly bits on the strakes like a baleen whale...

The i see nothing special with the floor. All teams will be getting the maximum from that space. Newey taught us that bigger is not always better when it comes to the floor.

Overall a clean design.

Will only see full details in the second half of testing.
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yinlad wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:45
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this whole area is confusing me

EDIT: Second glance the tray is SO thick. Dummy floor perhaps?
The undercut is so bulky it comes forward and damns up the back of the tea tray area! Interesting.
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AeroDynamic wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:28
Look at the gap between the rear face of the top front wing planes to the front face of the front tyres. The gap between the Aston Martin wing and its front tyres is bigger than that of the McLaren. Maybe the nose is shorter? or.. the front wing is bigger in depth?
https://i.imgur.com/wnZrd7I.jpg
Remember, that's perspective view, not orthogonal. Camera FoV & distance may be different for those cars.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Feb 2022, 22:50
Aston Martin looks more refined so far.

James Key has a clean philosphy but it looks like his is not pushing the boundaries as hard as Andrew Green.

So far...

Push rod rear suggest they want to maximise the diffuer area.

Strakes hidden so they have something planned here. More likely some fiddly bits on the strakes like a baleen whale...

The i see nothing special with the floor. All teams will be getting the maximum from that space. Newey taught us that bigger is not always better when it comes to the floor.

Overall a clean design.

Will only see full details in the second half of testing.
I’m not sure that is fair to say clean = bad though, especially since most of the work is happening underneath. But yes,
missing a lot of the detail work.